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Chewbacca
Sep 22, 2008Aspirant
Vista Wireless Performance Questionnaire
With the amount of Vista issues on the forum, we are putting out a questionnaire here to get more information on the setups to get get a grasp of what is happening. Based on user feedback over the last several months, we've also updated the questionnaire with some possible solutions as well that you can easily try out.
0) Updated to Windows Vista SP1? SP1 contains a number of network changes that improved overall throughput with the ReadyNAS.
1) Tried changing MTU on ReadyNAS and laptop to 1492? Instructions on how to change Vista MTU at http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/vistaMTU.htm . A couple users had success keeping the ReadyNAS MTU at 1500 and switching Vista MTU to 1460.
2) What model of Wireless Router and firmware is being used?
3) What Wireless Card model and firmware being used?
4) What connection speed are you seeing for Wireless Adapter (i.e. 54 Mbps)?
5) What's the connection speed between ReadyNAS to Router (10/100/1000 Mbps) -- you can see this in FrontView's Network page.
6) What's the throughput from Windows XP to ReadyNAS and Vista to ReadyNAS? Both Machines at or near same location?
7) Whats the throughput from Windows XP to Vista?
8) Does disabling firewall help? One user reported problem solved by disabling Symantec firewall.
9) Does uninstalling anti-virus help? One user reported problem solved by uninstalling CA anti-virus.
10) Does enabling jumbo frames work? Several folks reported problem solved by enabling jumbo frames, and this also had the effect of speeding up wired transfers.
11) Are you able to try another router? A couple users reported replacing current router/switch solved the problem.
Updated 3/4/2009 by yoh-dah.
0) Updated to Windows Vista SP1? SP1 contains a number of network changes that improved overall throughput with the ReadyNAS.
1) Tried changing MTU on ReadyNAS and laptop to 1492? Instructions on how to change Vista MTU at http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/vistaMTU.htm . A couple users had success keeping the ReadyNAS MTU at 1500 and switching Vista MTU to 1460.
2) What model of Wireless Router and firmware is being used?
3) What Wireless Card model and firmware being used?
4) What connection speed are you seeing for Wireless Adapter (i.e. 54 Mbps)?
5) What's the connection speed between ReadyNAS to Router (10/100/1000 Mbps) -- you can see this in FrontView's Network page.
6) What's the throughput from Windows XP to ReadyNAS and Vista to ReadyNAS? Both Machines at or near same location?
7) Whats the throughput from Windows XP to Vista?
8) Does disabling firewall help? One user reported problem solved by disabling Symantec firewall.
9) Does uninstalling anti-virus help? One user reported problem solved by uninstalling CA anti-virus.
10) Does enabling jumbo frames work? Several folks reported problem solved by enabling jumbo frames, and this also had the effect of speeding up wired transfers.
11) Are you able to try another router? A couple users reported replacing current router/switch solved the problem.
Updated 3/4/2009 by yoh-dah.
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- wimski99AspirantJust give me a few days and I'll post it for you. In the meanwhile, can you give me a short instruction on which application to use for measuring speeds?
Cheers,
Wim - yoh-dahGuide
wimski99 wrote: Just give me a few days and I'll post it for you. In the meanwhile, can you give me a short instruction on which application to use for measuring speeds?
Cheers,
Wim
Drag & drop a large file and just measure the MB/sec throughput you get both ways. That should do it. - rappconAspirantI don't normally post to these, but it looks to me that this isn't a throughput issue, but more likely some sort of a protocol issue. I happen to have an XP box running wirelessly though a linksys router to my NAS and a Vista box runing wirelessly to the same NAS via a DLINK router.
The Xp seems to have very good performance.
The Vista seems to have issues when trying to access the directory strucuture on the NAS. The download transfer rate is abou 2.6 Meg per second reguardless of the MTU settings. I don't have bonjour running on my NAS (not sure if that matters). If I change the MTU from 1500 to 1492 on both the Vista machine and the NAS, I get much better results. - sytAspirant
Chewbacca wrote: 1) Has MTU been changed to 1492 and running Windows Vista SP1
Yes and Yes.
2) Model of Wireless Router and Firmware used.
D-Link DI-714P+ w/ firmware version 1.33 which is latest according to D-Link.
3) Wireless Card Model and Firmware
Intel 4965AGN (Don't know how to check firmware on this thing.)
4) Connection Speed that you are seeing for Wireless Adapter. (54Mbps/24Mbps)
11Mbps
5) Connection Speed between ReadyNAS to Router (10/100/1000Mbps)
100Mbps
6) Throughput from Windows XP to ReadyNAS and Vista to ReadyNAS. Both Machines at or near same location. (Read/Write MB/sec)
I don't have a Windows XP machine.
IOMeter on Vista says:
Read: 0.57 MBs per Second
Write: 0.59 MBs per Second
7) Throughput from Windows XP to Vista (Read/Write MB/sec)
I don't have a Windows XP machine.
8) If MTU settings were changed to 1492 on the NAS and SP1 is installed, Would like a Wireshark capture when transfering data from Vista to ReadyNAS
I have MTU set to 1492 and have installed SP1. I installed Wireshark and captured a transfer. How do I get it to you?
My answers are embedded in your quote above. - ChewbaccaAspirantsyt
Thanks for the response.
You can send the Log file here attn me
http://www.readynas.com/forum/faq.php#H ... ll_logs%3F
Is the Read/Write for Vista using Iometer or Drag and Drop?
Thanks - sytAspirantHowdy Chewbacca. I tried to send you my trace file, but your email server choked on it because it was too big (8MB). It's OK, though. I bought a new router today and I'm seeing much better performance. With my D-Link DIR-655, IOMeter is showing reads of 5.5 Mbps and writes of 7 Mbps. I can finally start making better use of my NAS with my new-found network bandwidth.
- kiki1AspirantHi Chewbacca,
I would just confirm that all Vista related performance issues were solved on my Notebook after I changed the NetworkThrottlingIndex registry key value to 70 (Decimal)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Multimedia\SystemProfile\
Name : NetworkThrottlingIndex
As described here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/948066 - chirpaLuminary
And linked to here as well: faq.php#I%27m_getting_poor_performance_with_Windows_Vista._Is_there_anything_I_can_do%3Fkiki wrote: As described here: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/948066 - JellenAspirantDoes changing MTU from 1500 to 1492 have a huge effect on transfer speed with other wired XP machines?
Greetings
Jellen - felineAspirantI am not sure about all of the answers, but I will do my best. I have the following hardware:
* winXP SP2 machine with a gigabit network port
* Vista SP1 laptop with wireless N built in and gigabit port
* Netgear GS608 8-port gigabit ethernet switch
* Netgear ADSL modem / router / wireless G, DG834G v2
* Netgear ReadyNAS NV+ firmware 4.1.4 with 1 hard drive in X-RAID
The winXP machine, the modem and the NAS are all connected to the gigabit switch via network cable.
The modem is acting as my DHCP server
The Vista laptop is connected to the modem via a wireless link - G since that is all the modem offers
With this setup the Vista connection to the NAS was so slow it was nearly useless. Explorer would regularly hang when I tried to open a folder on the NAS, it could take 60 seconds or more to open a 250k JPG file. This is a dual core laptop with 4gig of ram, the fastest one I could find in the shop 1 month ago when I purchased it.
Using Vista I copied a 121meg file from the NAS to the local hard drive. This took over 9 minutes, and for most of that time it reported 8+ hours to complete. This was reasonable since the network transfer rate was very close to zero. I went into task manager and looked at the network throughput, there was virtually none.
Interestingly after several minutes the transfer speed improved and it looks like most of the transfer was done in the last 2 minutes.
I have a shared folder on the Vista machine, so sitting on the winXP machine I copied a 113meg file from winXP to the Vista share. This took 55 seconds, over the wireless connection.
I put the laptop next to the modem (about 12 inches away) and this made no difference. I used a network cable to connect the laptop to the modem (10/100 switch) and rebooted. This fixed the problems and I got nice fast access to the NAS.
Back to wireless, the speed problems came back.Chewbacca wrote: 1) Has MTU been changed to 1492 and running Windows Vista SP1
I changed this and it seems to have fixed the problems. Only changed an hour ago, so I need to keep an eye on this. Certainly speed is much improved, and "hangs" in Vista while it tries to access files are no longer constant.Chewbacca wrote: 2) Model of Wireless Router and Firmware used.
Netgear ADSL modem / router / wireless G, DG834G v2
Firmware was Version 3.01.31 (UK)
I upgraded the firmware to Version 3.01.38 (UK) which made no differenceChewbacca wrote: 3) Wireless Card Model and Firmware
Vista device manager lists "intel(R) WiFi Link 5100 AGN"
Is that what you mean?Chewbacca wrote: 4) Connection Speed that you are seeing for Wireless Adapter. (54Mbps/24Mbps)
How do I find this? Signal strength is normally good to excellent.Chewbacca wrote: 5) Connection Speed between ReadyNAS to Router (10/100/1000Mbps)
10/100 switch in modem / wireless access pointChewbacca wrote: 6) Throughput from Windows XP to ReadyNAS and Vista to ReadyNAS. Both Machines at or near same location. (Read/Write MB/sec)
I copied 4 ISO files from the winXP machine to the NAS, total size 2.25gig - this took 4 minutes exactly according to stop watch.Chewbacca wrote: 7) Throughput from Windows XP to Vista (Read/Write MB/sec)
see aboveChewbacca wrote: 8) If MTU settings were changed to 1492 and SP1 is installed, Would like a Wireshark capture when transfering data from Vista to ReadyNAS
I may try that later, I don't currently have wireshark installed anywhere.
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