CM1200 Moca Support

[Moocow9m]

I have recently moved and would like to setup MoCA in the new house as wifi will not reach the other levels and I perfer not to use extenders. I don't know how to check if a modem has support and I am not sure what is requred to setup moca other than a compatable modem and an adapter. I have used powerline adapters before the move, but I belive MoCA is much faster from what I read. The modem I am looking at is CM1200 and I didn't see anthing explicit.

Thank you for reading and please forgive me if I missed something obvious.

[antinode · Accepted solution]

> 2. While I used "Modem" I more ment CM1200, which looks to be a
> modem+router, but only called a modem, as most modems I see these days
> do, [...]

   The CM1200 might _look_ like a modem+router, but it really is only a
modem.  And the difference matters.

   Visit http://netgear.com/support , put in your model number, and look
for Documentation.  Get the User Manual. Read.  Pay particular
attention to what the User Manual says about how to use its "LAN ports".
(And, what it doesn't say.)  A forum/Web search for that model number
might find more than one fellow who misinterpreted the significance of
its multiple LAN Ethernet ports.

> 1. The new houes does have multiple co-ax ports(its my understanding
> all of them would be connected) and the problen is about coverage
> without running new cables.

   In that case, using MoCA might make some sense.  But, the cost of
multiple MoCA-Ethernet adapters might make running some Ethernet cables
look more attractive.

   My vague impression is that Netgear doesn't do much with MoCA.  (I
see one old (MoCA 1.1) adapter, the MCA1001 ("MC1001"?).)  If I were
interested in MoCA, I'd be looking elsewhere.  If you're looking for a
router in any case, then you might find a router with a built-in MoCA
adapter more attractive than a router which needs a its own external
MoCA adapter.

[plemans]

The CM1200 doesn't have moca support

[antinode]

> [...] would like to setup MoCA in the new house [...]

   Why?  You're describing a proposed solution, not the actual problem.

   Are you hinting that your "the new house" already has co-axial cable
running around in it, or what?  If you're running your own cable, then
simple Ethernet might make more sense than co-ax with MoCA adapters
everywhere.

> [...] I don't know how to check if a modem has support [...]

   Read the documentation for the modem?  I wouldn't expect a _modem_ to
do anything with MoCA, which I generally associate with a router (or
modem+router).  MoCA, as its acronym suggests, is a substitute for
Ethernet, using (existing) co-axial cable.  A cable modem already has a
co-ax port for communication with the ISP, and an Ethernet port for
communication with a router.  MoCA is normally used between a router and
client devices, not between a modem and anything.

> [...] The modem I am looking at is CM1200 and I didn't see anthing
> explicit.

   Because it's a modem, without a router.  If you intended to connect
more than one device to it, then you'd also need a router.

> [...] if I missed something obvious.

   Like, for example, a useful description of exactly what your goal is,
rather than a sloppy description of how you want to achieve that goal?

[Moocow9m]

@antinode 

>1  Why?  You're describing a proposed solution, not the actual problem.

   Are you hinting that your "the new house" already has co-axial cable
running around in it, or what?  If you're running your own cable, then
simple Ethernet might make more sense than co-ax with MoCA adapters
everywhere.

>2   Read the documentation for the modem?  I wouldn't expect a _modem_ to
do anything with MoCA, which I generally associate with a router (or
modem+router).  MoCA, as its acronym suggests, is a substitute for
Ethernet, using (existing) co-axial cable.  A cable modem already has a
co-ax port for communication with the ISP, and an Ethernet port for
communication with a router.  MoCA is normally used between a router and
client devices, not between a modem and anything.

>3 Because it's a modem, without a router.  If you intended to connect
more than one device to it, then you'd also need a router.

>4 Like, for example, a useful description of exactly what your goal is,
rather than a sloppy description of how you want to achieve that goal?

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1. The new houes does have multiple co-ax ports(its my understanding all of them would be connected) and the problen is about coverage without running new cables.

2. While I used "Modem" I more ment CM1200, which looks to be a modem+router, but only called a modem, as most modems I see these days do, sorry for the incorrect grammer. I will look at the documentation for the anserew, and if I find it, I'll mark this solution as accepted.

3. Refer to answer for point 2.

4. Yes, not very good at getting my point across, so sorry for the frustration you seem to have. I am trying to get better at asking questions on fourms.

Thank you for your response.

[antinode · Accepted solution]

> 2. While I used "Modem" I more ment CM1200, which looks to be a
> modem+router, but only called a modem, as most modems I see these days
> do, [...]

   The CM1200 might _look_ like a modem+router, but it really is only a
modem.  And the difference matters.

   Visit http://netgear.com/support , put in your model number, and look
for Documentation.  Get the User Manual. Read.  Pay particular
attention to what the User Manual says about how to use its "LAN ports".
(And, what it doesn't say.)  A forum/Web search for that model number
might find more than one fellow who misinterpreted the significance of
its multiple LAN Ethernet ports.

> 1. The new houes does have multiple co-ax ports(its my understanding
> all of them would be connected) and the problen is about coverage
> without running new cables.

   In that case, using MoCA might make some sense.  But, the cost of
multiple MoCA-Ethernet adapters might make running some Ethernet cables
look more attractive.

   My vague impression is that Netgear doesn't do much with MoCA.  (I
see one old (MoCA 1.1) adapter, the MCA1001 ("MC1001"?).)  If I were
interested in MoCA, I'd be looking elsewhere.  If you're looking for a
router in any case, then you might find a router with a built-in MoCA
adapter more attractive than a router which needs a its own external
MoCA adapter.

[schumaku]

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@antinode wrote:

> 1. The new houes does have multiple co-ax ports(its my understanding
> all of them would be connected) and the problen is about coverage
> without running new cables.

   In that case, using MoCA might make some sense.  But, the cost of
multiple MoCA-Ethernet adapters might make running some Ethernet cables
look more attractive.

   My vague impression is that Netgear doesn't do much with MoCA.

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And there are reasons for this .... Unless your Coax-/RF-cabing is an isolaed thing, e.g. feed from a multi-user sat receiver you might be fine. If using a CableTV provider network - if connected by pure RF on a longer range from a headend to multiple houses it's guaranteed your CableTV provider won't like this idea. Or your wife won't be able to see her preferred channel....

[FURRYe38]

Don't be confused by the additional ports on the back of the CM1200. Those are WAN side assignable IP address ports from the ISP only. Think of it is having 4 different WAN IP addresses from your ISP. Some businesses may have need for that. Most home users will not. Not sure why NG markets them to home users but there you have it. If you need a modem with less ports and same HW configuration, Try NG CM1000 or CM1100. Again, modems only. No router. 

@Moocow9m