Ready NAS 104 Crashes when changing Network setting (creating new bond) ...
I was following this thread describing my issue on RN 104 - any attempt of creating ethernet bond (even latest OS 6.10.3) leads to crash displaying something 'putname+14' on the display. The NAS hangs and only way to recover it is to unplug and replug power.
Latest entry is from "2020-02-0902:31" ... yet the thread is marked as solved -. but it is NOT solved any attempt on RN 104 to create bonding of eth0/1 ends with crash.
We need a solution. My SMB transfer spped to regular "1 snaphshot", "no bit rot protection" is horrible - on 300Mb WiFi to my NETGEAR WNDR4300v2 router directly connected with brand new Cat6 cables to RN 104 I am getting 10 - 14 MB/s transfer ... not even close to mentioned 70MB/s ... I even dream having the 35MB/s ....
My SMB transfer spped to regular "1 snaphshot", "no bit rot protection" is horrible - on 300Mb WiFi to my NETGEAR WNDR4300v2 router directly connected with brand new Cat6 cables to RN 104 I am getting 10 - 14 MB/s transfer ... not even close to mentioned 70MB/s ... I even dream having the 35MB/s ....
FWIW, bonding won't help. The RN104 can't keep up with a single gigabit connection - so adding a second link won't help.
Are you measuring the speed over a wifi connection, or is the PC also connected with ethernet?
If you are using ethernet, have you checked that the PC and the NAS are running gigabit ethernet?
Re: Ready NAS 104 Crashes when changing Network setting (creating new bond) ...
Did new test,
PC file transfer via:
1) WiFi 300 Mbps -> guessing WiFi is half-duplex -> so 300 / 2 / 8 gives me teoretical speed up to 18,75 MBps - I was hitting around 14MBps so that was pretty close to maximum I guess.
2) Gigabit Ethernet (yes I checked it is detected on router and NAS as 1GB and not 10/100Mbs) -> then I was getting around 30MBps using wired transfer. It is still not the max reported (70MBs) but because of the crash while setting the ethernet bond NAS is now re-syncing several TBs so it will take a couple of days before I can run 2nd test via wired connection.
1) WiFi 300 Mbps -> guessing WiFi is half-duplex -> so 300 / 2 / 8 gives me teoretical speed up to 18,75 MBps - I was hitting around 14MBps so that was pretty close to maximum I guess.
It's not half duplex. It's true that only one device (including the router) can send or receive at a time. But if you are only downloading (and no other devices are using the WiFi), you can use the full link in the download direction. Likewise for uploading.
But real-world throughput is always a lot less than the link speed. ~100 megabits is reasonable for a 2.4 ghz wifi connection.
2) Gigabit Ethernet (yes I checked it is detected on router and NAS as 1GB and not 10/100Mbs) -> then I was getting around 30MBps using wired transfer. It is still not the max reported (70MBs) but because of the crash while setting the ethernet bond NAS is now re-syncing several TBs so it will take a couple of days before I can run 2nd test via wired connection.
Test it again after the sync is finished. If your volume is very old (especially if you started with 6.1.x firmware), you might consider doing a factory reset and rebuilding the NAS (restoring data from backup). You will see a speed increase if you do that.
Re: Ready NAS 104 Crashes when changing Network setting (creating new bond) ...
Hi, well I do have the NAS few years but had some factory reset 3 years ago - do not remember what was the version at that time. Doing factory reset will require backing up my 5TB somewhere, will take a while. Is there any chance that OS reinstall without destroying the data volume would help with increased speed ?? Or the only way is to get newest OS + fresh new volume and restore the 5TB from some backup ... ?
Is there any chance that OS reinstall without destroying the data volume would help with increased speed ??
No it won't.
If you have a spare disk, you could try powering down and removing all your disks (labeling by slot), and then do a factory install with the spare. Then see what speed you get. RAID will make some difference here, but this test would still give you some idea.
After that, just power down the NAS, and restore the disks to the proper slots.
Re: Ready NAS 104 Crashes when changing Network setting (creating new bond) ...
Ok, I tried to test the Factory default on new disks. Found 2 spare - 3.5" notebook HDD 350 GB and one 500GB SDD. Did the fresh install (Factory default) but changed the default X-RAID volume to RAID-1 (not sure what is the performance impact of this).
2) Wifi 5Ghz - 300Mbps - NETGEAR WNDR4300v2 - (no other traffic on wifi) - write avg. around 15MB/s and read avg. around 12MB/s
Interesting that the read is slower than write. Maybe the RAID-1 thing ? On my RAID-5 I am getting probably same read/write speed on simple shares (no bit rot protection/encryption).
What is strange that I am still not closing the 70MB/s transfer speed via cable. In peek - for write - I was getting 50MB/s but then it dropped to 40-45MB/s.
Maybe the disks I used ?? Maybe the RAID-1 ? Maybe the NETGEAR WNDR4300v2 router in a way .... ?
Ok, I tried to test the Factory default on new disks. Found 2 spare - 3.5" notebook HDD 350 GB and one 500GB SDD. Did the fresh install (Factory default) but changed the default X-RAID volume to RAID-1 (not sure what is the performance impact of this).
What is strange that I am still not closing the 70MB/s transfer speed via cable. In peek - for write - I was getting 50MB/s but then it dropped to 40-45MB/s.
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Notebook drives are very slow. Was the 500GB drive an SSD??? If so, try your experiment again with only the SSD drive in the system.
Re: Ready NAS 104 Crashes when changing Network setting (creating new bond) ...
I did extensive tests (minimal traffic on network) with various combinations and even with X-RAID, one SSD drive (via 1GB ethernet Cat6 cable) I am getting avg 50MB/s for write and 30MB/s for read operations. Factory default - 1SSD 500GB - SMB access.
Running a 400MB file write on \\10.24.1.110\Videa 5 times...
Iteration 1: 50,14 MB/sec
Iteration 2: 50,75 MB/sec
Iteration 3: 52,70 MB/sec
Iteration 4: 47,27 MB/sec
Iteration 5: 51,61 MB/sec
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Average (W): 50,49 MB/sec
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Running a 400MB file read on \\10.24.1.110\Videa 5 times...
Iteration 1: 28,58 MB/sec
Iteration 2: 30,16 MB/sec
Iteration 3: 30,93 MB/sec
Iteration 4: 34,08 MB/sec
Iteration 5: 28,32 MB/sec
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Average (R): 30,41 MB/sec
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CPU temp of NAS (mode set to Cool) is somewhere around 59 - 65 degrees of Celsius. I got an impression if I am getting over 65 degrees - I am having worse performance measurements.
So unless you see something else to improve I am thinking that limiting factor is my NETGEAR WNDR4300v2 router ind this case ... ???
BTW: Seems factory default solved the crash with creating teaming bond of eth0/1. I tested the speed transfer of all modes and was getting basically almost same performance (+-10%) with all teaming modes except Broadcasting which was really bad. Also the performance without teaming and with teaming was basically same.
So unless you see something else to improve I am thinking that limiting factor is my NETGEAR WNDR4300v2 router ind this case ... ???
The PC running the test is also using gigabit ethernet? Or is it using WiFi?
The router (and PC) wifi would certainly limit your throughput. But it shouldn't be limiting it when all the connections are ethernet.
If you have internet security software running on the PC, you might try disabling it (also disabling any antivirus protection). That could be affecting the speeds.
Re: Ready NAS 104 Crashes when changing Network setting (creating new bond) ...
Yes, the PC was connected via 1GB Ethernet Cat 6 cable.
The impact of antivirus SW won't be that bad + local tests on USB3 on the very same SSD used in the NAS were giving transfer 150 - 300MB/s so I can almost for sure eliminate the security SW.
The impact of antivirus SW won't be that bad + local tests on USB3 on the very same SSD used in the NAS were giving transfer 150 - 300MB/s so I can almost for sure eliminate the security SW.
It's very unusual for read speeds to be slower than write speeds. AV software will scan on file access, and that can slow down read speeds over the network. So I suggest trying it, and not assuming that it's not a factor.
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Good point - with the read perf. slower than write - it always puzzled me :-).
I am rebuilding the NAS - backing up the data now - once done I will test RAID-6 (with 4 3TB drives, switched back from Flex-RAID to XRAID after adding 4th drive) and RAID-10 (with 4 3TB drives).
While testing the read/write performance for RAID-6/10 I will quick test also the Factory default X-RAID - WITHOUT the anitivirus apps running.
To explain the reason for XRAID-6/10 test -> I am thinking if I cannot make it faster - then use it with better reliability instead. So sacrify the performance and get beeter sleep to be protected against URE issue with RAID-5. I didn't find any good discussion comparing X-RAID against RAID-6/10 so I said to myself that if I cannot achieve the highest throughput anyway I might at least improve fault tolerance. Seems RAID-6 should be best but for RN104 might be too much work for CPU ... thus fallback to RAID-10 ... also thinking that if I disable X-RAID and use Flex-RAID then the additional layer of flexibility provided by X-RAID, if sacrified (not used), might ease up the CPU stress ... are those lines of my thoughts okay (for 4x3TB drive on ARM based RN104 model) ... ?? or would you recommend different RAID configuration (assuming here that I cannot make it fast anyway -> so will improve at least the reliability).
Also speaking of reliability - isn't RAID-6 (or RAID-10) with some Shares on the Volume having bit-rot-protection enabled (thus whole Volume having checksums enabled) too much of overkill for my RN104 ??
