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So little add-ons for ARM!!! This sucks.
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2012-10-02
10:59 AM
2012-10-02
10:59 AM
So little add-ons for ARM!!! This sucks.
Hey guys,
Been a loyal ReadyNAS user since 2008. My first was ReadyNAS Duo and now I'm on Duo v2.
My complaint is that there so few add-on (Netgear official & community) for the ARM platform.
From the Readynas.com add-ons page I found the following for ARM platform:
Non-community (I guess official ReadyNAS add-ons) for ARM:
Enable Root SSH Access
&
... THAT'S IT!!! (maybe the site needs updating because I know ReadyNAS Photos II is available in ARM)
Community based for ARM:
PHPMyAdmin
Sabnzbd
Transmission (which now you have to pay for)
This is seriously disappointing.
I do love the performance of the v2 and the build quality is top notch. I do miss the ability to upgrade the RAM from 256 MB to higher... (RAM was upgradable on the Duo v1 and I upped it to 1 GB RAM).
Have you guys been reading the reviews for ReadyNAS Duo v2? I agree with most of the reviews, which state that performance on the Duo v2 is quiet amazing from price point, but add-ons are pretty shitty. :x
Here's what Maximum PC says:
"ReadyNAS devices usually have access to a wide range of add-ons from Netgear or third parties via the community at ReadyNAS.com, but the vast majority aren’t compatible with the ARM-based ReadyNAS Duo v2 and ReadyNAS NV+ v2."
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/%5Bpri ... _v2_review
PCMag.com:
"Management software issues. Poor documentation. Lack of software add-ons to extend feature set."
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2400643,00.asp
I bought the ReadyNAS Duo v2 from Newegg.com back in late 2011. It's been almost one year, but not much to show for in terms of add-ons. Did you guys see the reviews on Newegg.com? 3 Eggs and a lot of complaints. What's going on???
/end rant. :cry:
Been a loyal ReadyNAS user since 2008. My first was ReadyNAS Duo and now I'm on Duo v2.
My complaint is that there so few add-on (Netgear official & community) for the ARM platform.
From the Readynas.com add-ons page I found the following for ARM platform:
Non-community (I guess official ReadyNAS add-ons) for ARM:
Enable Root SSH Access
&
... THAT'S IT!!! (maybe the site needs updating because I know ReadyNAS Photos II is available in ARM)
Community based for ARM:
PHPMyAdmin
Sabnzbd
Transmission (which now you have to pay for)
This is seriously disappointing.
I do love the performance of the v2 and the build quality is top notch. I do miss the ability to upgrade the RAM from 256 MB to higher... (RAM was upgradable on the Duo v1 and I upped it to 1 GB RAM).
Have you guys been reading the reviews for ReadyNAS Duo v2? I agree with most of the reviews, which state that performance on the Duo v2 is quiet amazing from price point, but add-ons are pretty shitty. :x
Here's what Maximum PC says:
"ReadyNAS devices usually have access to a wide range of add-ons from Netgear or third parties via the community at ReadyNAS.com, but the vast majority aren’t compatible with the ARM-based ReadyNAS Duo v2 and ReadyNAS NV+ v2."
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/%5Bpri ... _v2_review
PCMag.com:
"Management software issues. Poor documentation. Lack of software add-ons to extend feature set."
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2400643,00.asp
I bought the ReadyNAS Duo v2 from Newegg.com back in late 2011. It's been almost one year, but not much to show for in terms of add-ons. Did you guys see the reviews on Newegg.com? 3 Eggs and a lot of complaints. What's going on???
/end rant. :cry:
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2012-10-02
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Re: So little add-ons for ARM!!! This sucks.
Hello
You are soo right, I am EXTREMELY dissapointed. I do not only find the lack of add-ons frustrating but also the fact that is "falls out" of my net all the time and only solution is to reboot it by pulling the powerplug and then turning it on.
I am facing problems like
- Time machine not working 100%
- Itunes server not functioning
- DNLA works mostly all the time
How anybody can say this is a fantastic product beats me !!!
So to be totally honest - I bought another (competitive) product, and now I am waiting for a new and better firmware - if this doesnt happen within the new 3-4 weeks, then I am selling it on ebay. Currently to me its utterly useless 😞
You are soo right, I am EXTREMELY dissapointed. I do not only find the lack of add-ons frustrating but also the fact that is "falls out" of my net all the time and only solution is to reboot it by pulling the powerplug and then turning it on.
I am facing problems like
- Time machine not working 100%
- Itunes server not functioning
- DNLA works mostly all the time
How anybody can say this is a fantastic product beats me !!!
So to be totally honest - I bought another (competitive) product, and now I am waiting for a new and better firmware - if this doesnt happen within the new 3-4 weeks, then I am selling it on ebay. Currently to me its utterly useless 😞
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2012-10-02
11:59 AM
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11:59 AM
Re: So little add-ons for ARM!!! This sucks.
Hey PalleA,
Sorry to hear that your first post on the forum is major disappointment. 😞 And yea... it's A REAL DISAPPOINTMENT.
Did you end up getting Synology? Have you seen their NAS management software? It's quiet amazing!!!
Let us know what you got!
Thanks
p.s. I've been giving serious thought to move onto Synology because of this...
http://www.wegotserved.com/2012/08/31/s ... -shipping/
Sorry to hear that your first post on the forum is major disappointment. 😞 And yea... it's A REAL DISAPPOINTMENT.
Did you end up getting Synology? Have you seen their NAS management software? It's quiet amazing!!!
Let us know what you got!
Thanks
p.s. I've been giving serious thought to move onto Synology because of this...
http://www.wegotserved.com/2012/08/31/s ... -shipping/
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2012-10-02
12:23 PM
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12:23 PM
Re: So little add-ons for ARM!!! This sucks.
The Genie appstore in 5.3.6 is suposed to get more apps in it, but ya, been a long time since launch with no add-ons.
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2012-10-02
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2012-10-02
01:08 PM
So little add-ons for ARM!!! This sucks.
I'm testing 15 addon's. for arm which will be on the store
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2012-10-02
01:46 PM
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01:46 PM
Re: So little add-ons for ARM!!! This sucks.
Thats if the Genie appstore ever works i find the site is either down half the time and when it is not down when you try to log in it tells you wrong user or password even though you know its correct.
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2012-10-02
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Re: So little add-ons for ARM!!! This sucks.
HERBIEO wrote: Thats if the Genie appstore ever works i find the site is either down half the time and when it is not down when you try to log in it tells you wrong user or password even though you know its correct.
I've been trying for the last hour to get GENIE store to work. It keeps saying I already made an account, but I never did. Tried doing password reset, but it never sends me an e-mail to reset the password. This is really broken. Terrible terrible. I'm REALLY considering buying Synology after using ReadyNAS for 4+ years.
So sad. I loved my Duo...
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2012-10-02
02:46 PM
2012-10-02
02:46 PM
Re: So little add-ons for ARM!!! This sucks.
super-poussin wrote: I'm testing 15 addon's. for arm which will be on the store
Hey super-poussin,
That's great to hear. Can you tell us the names of the 15 add-ons?
Thanks!
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2012-10-03
03:14 AM
2012-10-03
03:14 AM
Re: So little add-ons for ARM!!! This sucks.
honcho wrote:
HERBIEO wrote: Thats if the Genie appstore ever works i find the site is either down half the time and when it is not down when you try to log in it tells you wrong user or password even though you know its correct.
I've been trying for the last hour to get GENIE store to work. It keeps saying I already made an account, but I never did. Tried doing password reset, but it never sends me an e-mail to reset the password. This is really broken. Terrible terrible. I'm REALLY considering buying Synology after using ReadyNAS for 4+ years.
So sad. I loved my Duo...
Yes that is exactly the same problem i get and a lot of other people the account is supposed to be same user and pass that you registered with tech support, but it tells you it's invalid so if you try to create a new account it tells you the account with that email allready exist's, and if you try the forgot password option it says its sent email to that email address but you never recieve it.
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2012-10-03
02:37 PM
2012-10-03
02:37 PM
Re: So little add-ons for ARM!!! This sucks.
Ya, they use a separate database from Support, but freak out when trying to register an already registered address occurs. Looks like many people with this issue at the moment... Case #19502300,#19497957,#19495581,#19483963,#19442096,#19502430,#19615685,#19490503,#19639232.
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2012-10-03
04:04 PM
2012-10-03
04:04 PM
Re: So little add-ons for ARM!!! This sucks.
I think its very unfortunate that netgear has (seemingly) been letting readynas languish.
The competition is iterating very quickly new software and hardware, while netgear fragments and lets lag their hardware (x86 vs arm) and software (raidiator x86, arm, and now readydata).
I agree the synology system os is very compelling and puts pretty much everyone else to shame.
I hope netgear/readynas can turn it around, because eventually I will have to choose and I don't want to go to the dark side willingly.
The competition is iterating very quickly new software and hardware, while netgear fragments and lets lag their hardware (x86 vs arm) and software (raidiator x86, arm, and now readydata).
I agree the synology system os is very compelling and puts pretty much everyone else to shame.
I hope netgear/readynas can turn it around, because eventually I will have to choose and I don't want to go to the dark side willingly.
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2012-10-03
05:08 PM
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Re: So little add-ons for ARM!!! This sucks.
I'm so close to pulling the trigger on the DS413. lol
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2012-10-05
05:51 AM
2012-10-05
05:51 AM
Re: So little add-ons for ARM!!! This sucks.
DS413 or DS413j? Neither one has the front panel to tell you whats going on which means you must decode light flashes. The better looking DS413 has a weak processor (1.067 GHz) although it is dual core and does have 1GB of memory. The DS413j has a 1.6GHz processor but since it does not say dual core, one must assume a single core. The design leaves me unimpressed (looks like a 1980's diskette storage box) and it only has 512GB of memory.
If you are in that price range you need to seriously consider the Ultra 4 or even the Ultra 4 Plus. (Better hardware and extensive add-ons).
If you are in that price range you need to seriously consider the Ultra 4 or even the Ultra 4 Plus. (Better hardware and extensive add-ons).
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2012-10-06
08:38 PM
2012-10-06
08:38 PM
Re: So little add-ons for ARM!!! This sucks.
hey PapaBear,
I seriously considered grabbing the ultra 4/+, but they both don't have usb 3.0. i seriously need that as my run and go to backup my essential files...
tonight i got my wd red drives... did a factory reset after back up all my data and letting it sync. re-downloaded ssh add-on for ARM from readynas website... installed and constantly got failed ssh install error 13... about 10 times.
i'm moving to a different NAS unfortunately. screw ARM...
the SSH install fail was the final straw on the camel's back.
I seriously considered grabbing the ultra 4/+, but they both don't have usb 3.0. i seriously need that as my run and go to backup my essential files...
tonight i got my wd red drives... did a factory reset after back up all my data and letting it sync. re-downloaded ssh add-on for ARM from readynas website... installed and constantly got failed ssh install error 13... about 10 times.
i'm moving to a different NAS unfortunately. screw ARM...
the SSH install fail was the final straw on the camel's back.
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2012-10-07
12:29 AM
2012-10-07
12:29 AM
Re: So little add-ons for ARM!!! This sucks.
honcho wrote:
HERBIEO wrote: Thats if the Genie appstore ever works i find the site is either down half the time and when it is not down when you try to log in it tells you wrong user or password even though you know its correct.
I've been trying for the last hour to get GENIE store to work. It keeps saying I already made an account, but I never did. Tried doing password reset, but it never sends me an e-mail to reset the password. This is really broken. Terrible terrible. I'm REALLY considering buying Synology after using ReadyNAS for 4+ years.
So sad. I loved my Duo...
Same here - cannot login to the Genie appstore 😞
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2012-10-10
10:05 AM
2012-10-10
10:05 AM
Re: So little add-ons for ARM!!! This sucks.
Just wanted to update...
Just bought a ReadyNAS Pro 2. Much better add-ons...
But, I miss the nice interface of RAIDiator 5...
Just bought a ReadyNAS Pro 2. Much better add-ons...
But, I miss the nice interface of RAIDiator 5...
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2012-10-10
04:04 PM
2012-10-10
04:04 PM
Re: So little add-ons for ARM!!! This sucks.
The Sparc and x86 units have been around and have more addons due to their age. The x86 are able to get a little more fancy addons with the extra processing power.
The Arm units and Genie app are still young, so there are more app/addons to come. Based on the pick up in may take a few months to show more apps/addons.
The Arm units and Genie app are still young, so there are more app/addons to come. Based on the pick up in may take a few months to show more apps/addons.
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2012-11-03
03:12 AM
2012-11-03
03:12 AM
Re: So little add-ons for ARM!!! This sucks.
I sell a lot of ReadyNAS (pros and duos) ... pros are very good .. with the duos v2 there are a lot of initial problems ... not resolvable by a normal user ... I am disappointed too about not upgradable ram ... i ask myselv why netgear produces a small nas when they castrate it ... and they let the users test the software ... is netgear really complete desinterested in the lots of complaints about readynas duo v2 in this forum? ...
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2012-11-03
03:17 AM
2012-11-03
03:17 AM
Re: So little add-ons for ARM!!! This sucks.
There are more apps appearing over time in the Genie Marketplace.
Whilst the RAM not being replaceable is disappointing, NetGear doesn't support 3rd party memory upgrades anyway for the models that do have replaceable RAM. See http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/20685
Edit: I should also add from reading some posts here it does appear that NetGear is working on a 5.3.7 update. This update should address some of the issues that have been faced.
Whilst the RAM not being replaceable is disappointing, NetGear doesn't support 3rd party memory upgrades anyway for the models that do have replaceable RAM. See http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/20685
Edit: I should also add from reading some posts here it does appear that NetGear is working on a 5.3.7 update. This update should address some of the issues that have been faced.
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2012-11-15
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Re: So little add-ons for ARM!!! This sucks.
5.3.7 is released, though they don't list this bug in the Bug Fixes section, they consider it an Enhancement??
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2013-10-17
11:19 PM
2013-10-17
11:19 PM
Re: So little add-ons for ARM!!! This sucks.
The Duo V2 hardware is great. The software, well... it's not that great. What can you do?
Just install a plain debian: http://natisbad.org/NAS
And you open the door to any linux software out there!
Just install a plain debian: http://natisbad.org/NAS
And you open the door to any linux software out there!
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