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Re: S10+ faster on WiFi 5 vs WiFi 6
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S10+ faster on WiFi 5 vs WiFi 6
5 feet from router
WiFi 5
Speedtest 727/42
Fast.com 900/40
WiFi 6
Speedtest 604/41
Fast.com 740/40
Bedroom
WiFi 5
Speedtest 422/41
Fast.com 550/40
WiFi 6
Speedtest 343/42
Fast.com 400/40
I was interested at the results and figured I'd share mine in case anyone else was looking for some speed tests with a WiFi 6 enabled device. I hope WiFi 6 will only improve from here on out.
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Re: S10+ faster on WiFi 5 vs WiFi 6
More interesting would be the PHY link speed negotiated at these locations with the two standards - check the Network Details along with each test. Convinced you see - at least on the short range tests - link rates above the max 866 Mbit/s (2x2, HT80, 400 ns guard, 256-QAM, 5/6 coding) - otherwise some of these higher Wi-Fi 5 numbers would not be possible at all.
Based on the numbers, knowing the S10+ is a 2x2 WiFi radio, you have not tested a "standard" 802.11ac, much more 802.11ac with the non-standard 1024-QAM - and this the key component is where most of the performance "advantage" for 802.11ax (WiFi 6) is coming from.
Still, your Wi-Fi 6 test numbers are lower from what I would expect in the comparison.
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Re: S10+ faster on WiFi 5 vs WiFi 6
But yeah, first speedtest this morning on ac showing 866 PHY was 816/41 and on ax showing 1200 PHY, I ran 3 tests and highest I achieved was 586/42 so it's definitely a little odd.
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Re: S10+ faster on WiFi 5 vs WiFi 6
ax showing 1200 PHY
ac showing 866 PHY
First ac test this morning came back 816/41
Ran three ax tests and fastest I got was 586/42
So it's definitely a little odd at this point, but hopeful it will improve with software tweaks.
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Re: S10+ faster on WiFi 5 vs WiFi 6
More than 800 or even 900 as you listed before sounds almost resp. completely impossible on a 866 Mbit 802.11ac PHY.
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Re: S10+ faster on WiFi 5 vs WiFi 6
With just the 866 Mbit/s PHY link rate, it's probably not 1024-QAM 802.11ac ... that would make a link rate of about 975 or 1083 Mbit/s.
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Re: S10+ faster on WiFi 5 vs WiFi 6
1024 QAM in general is more susceptible to noise however. That’s why I can get a stable 1.7 Gbps link rate across my house on AC HT160 but it fluctuates between 1.2-2.4 on HT160 AX depending on location.
As for 1024 QAM on AC, even with BCMs non standard 1024 QAM implementation the BCM based routers still in general had lower peak & average throughput than the R7800/R9000 (Qualcomm based routers) even at close ranges (where 1024 QAM is more effective) with BCM based clients. On AC it was more of a gimmick.
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Re: S10+ faster on WiFi 5 vs WiFi 6
Very odd ... and sorry for my mistake mixing chipset vendors for the RAX120.
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Re: S10+ faster on WiFi 5 vs WiFi 6
HT160 is more susceptible to interference and can lead to reduced range depending on your environment so unless you’re benchmarking or something, not much of a loss by not having it on a phone.
Samsung has been using Broadcom WiFi chips on their Galaxy S series devices for quite a while. But yeah the one in the S10 supports AX (WiFi-6).
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Re: S10+ faster on WiFi 5 vs WiFi 6
That makes sense. I'm guessing the tooltip may just be wrong on the router settings because it shows the ax/1024-QAM when on ax mode then it switches to ac/1024-QAM when ax is turned off.
Thanks for the info. Still seems odd that I'm getting less performance on that standard despite the higher link speed.
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Re: S10+ faster on WiFi 5 vs WiFi 6
I have the AX8 RAX80 and notice that if I set the speed to 4800 Mbps enabling 160 MHz channel mode my Wireless AC devices such as Samsung Note 9 will test slower on speed tests around 300 - 400 mbps on my GIG connection but if I set the speed to 2400 Mbps I get about 667-700 mbps down on Note 9. When I check the AC connection speed on the phone it is higher then 866 and be 1083.
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Re: S10+ faster on WiFi 5 vs WiFi 6
https://kb.netgear.com/000061013/RAX120-Firmware-Version-1-0-1-86
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Re: S10+ faster on WiFi 5 vs WiFi 6
Thanks for the heads-up. I ended up returning the S10+ over the weekend to switch back to my iPhone full-time, so I can't run any new tests with the new firmware. I'm glad they addressed it, though, and I look forward to trying it out again whenever I pick up another WiFi 6 device in the future.
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