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Re: New - RBRE960 / RBSE960 Firmware Version 7.2.6.31 Released
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Re: New - RBRE960 / RBSE960 Firmware Version 7.2.6.31 Released
@reddavin wrote:
Why would I need cables that support 10 gig?
I doubt you do unless the distance is quite long. We're in a similar sized 3 level home with one 960 and two Sats. Both SATs are wired directly to the 960, and the cables are 50' to 100' and from the 90s - probably CAT5 - not even CAT5e. I'm yet to see any cable changes solve a thing. If you had over 100' foot runs maybe, but otherwise no - especially if the 850 was working well with your existing wiring. My 850 was far more stable than the 960 - not as fast, but less problematic. That said, 7.2.6.21 has been fairly decent. I have not even sold my 850 yet because last year was a nightmare, but now I could let it go. For the most part, the 960 setup is working well.
I have not tried this build and am going to sit on it until I have time to test as well as revert based on comments here.
I'd say, get the RBK963 working well with 7.2.6.21 and once you have that, then worry about new releases. FWIW, when I check for upgrades, nothing shows up - interesting that yours did it automatically.
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Re: New - RBRE960 / RBSE960 Firmware Version 7.2.6.31 Released
@reddavin wrote:
Yes, at this point I’m tired of the drama. And spent way more time on this expensive system. I was going to roll it back this evening, but we watched Survivor, and I had a cat on my lap. Priorities. I’ll see how it goes tomorrow and probably roll it back. That was the recommendation from Netgear, maybe they know more about the reliability of .31.
to be fair, the drama I had last year post 850 was
1) a disagreement between the 960 and the xFi B7 gateway that Netgear Support solved with an update. That was impressive.
2) Comcast upgrading their system and causing disruptions several times a week. The 960 did not like that! I was finally able to figure out it was an Xfinity issue.
At this point, I've been happy with the 960 since last fall when Comcast apparently finished doing its thing - upside is they gave us much faster internet for the same price...so far.
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Re: New - RBRE960 / RBSE960 Firmware Version 7.2.6.31 Released
And still seems to be ongoing with that ISP as well from this thread:
I don't think there is any instability issues with v.31 FW. Based off v.21 being solid and well tested back then, and making adjustments to the WiFi and inclusion of the EU Region, I don't believe there is any cause for instabilities. Seems like from this thread and others, v.31 is being well received san installation mis-understandings. Again, update RBS FIRST, then RBR lastly and doing a manual update. No drama here.
Also having too much RBS in smaller sized homes will cause problems. Why we ask about home size. No FW can correct for this.
Also, I believe that with CC and XF, there IPv6 DNS handling maybe cause of Orbi systems not working right. Hoping that with @donawalt testing and observations with using other non ISP IPv6 DNS configurations, hopefully will show good results here. We have our fingers crossed here.
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Re: New - RBRE960 / RBSE960 Firmware Version 7.2.6.31 Released
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Also having too much RBS in smaller sized homes will cause problems. Why we ask about home size. No FW can correct for this.
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I couldn't agree more. The 960 series has a strong signal. I get a very strong 5GHz and 6Ghz signal on other floors of a house with high ceilings. My iPhone connects to the router, with strong signal and good speeds, when it is TWO floors below my bedroom!
The very best bet is use a WiFi signal analyzer - I know there are at least 2 good apps on the Mac that are free and simple to use, I assume there are comparable ones in the Windows world too. You just walk around and watch the signal strength, starting with just the router on - you'll get a nice picture of the house. Then figure best place to place the RBSs.
Satellites should be popositioned where there is no/very weak signal if using Ethernet backhaul. They need to be put where there is decent signal near an area with bad signal for WiFi backhaul. If you start out with just the router temporarily running (RBSs off), walk around with a laptop running a signal analyzer, you will be surprised at the signal strength. I used to have 3 satellites, one on each floor, and I discovered that was overkill. By pulling an RBS and re-positioning the others, a lot of weirdness in mobile devices losing their signal went away.
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Re: New - RBRE960 / RBSE960 Firmware Version 7.2.6.31 Released
I can get away with running the RBR and just one RBS wirelessly in my 5000sq ft home. Though I normally run two and both are ethernet connected and the power on the RBR is turned down to 25%. Plenty of coverage and operation with this configuration.
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Re: New - RBRE960 / RBSE960 Firmware Version 7.2.6.31 Released
@FURRYe38 wrote:I can get away with running the RBR and just one RBS wirelessly in my 5000sq ft home. Though I normally run two and both are ethernet connected and the power on the RBR is turned down to 25%. Plenty of coverage and operation with this configuration.
I have tired with just one for a time. It is OK, but not optimal. I actually can get by with the RBR, but that's not so great. More a shape of the house thing and I also want coverage outside on my deck, so one of the RBS is placed to make sure that works. And another towards the front for security cams. Those are the tough ones since it has to get through exterior walls. But I do have the 2.4 radio set to 50%.
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Re: New - RBRE960 / RBSE960 Firmware Version 7.2.6.31 Released
@FURRYe38 wrote:And still seems to be ongoing with that ISP as well from this thread:
I read that thread too and the related Xfinity forum thread. There's a lot reported there that I have never experienced with the 850 or the 960. Although I have the XB7 gateway, and the Xfinity thread seems to indicate it's an XB8 issue which I cannot comment on since we've never had that model. With an XB7, though, it normally works fine - unless Xfinity are rolling out different configs in different markets which I suppose could be possible.
I don't see any speed trail off / drop in UL/DL from wired devices or otherwise, no matter if they are direct to the RBS or wired through a switch to the RBR. My house it older, the cables are from 1996, and some of the runs are probably 100'. But I have seen bad connectors / cables muck things up and be difficult to run down - have to wonder how well they've checked their connections.
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Re: New - RBRE960 / RBSE960 Firmware Version 7.2.6.31 Released
How have people found the update so far?
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Re: New - RBRE960 / RBSE960 Firmware Version 7.2.6.31 Released
If your not seeing it, then may not be made available for auto udpate. If you want to update, you can manually install the update your self using the noted manual installation process.
@liamscor wrote:
How have people found the update so far?
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Re: New - RBRE960 / RBSE960 Firmware Version 7.2.6.31 Released
What I meant to say was, how have people been finding the update so far, in terms of performance?
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Re: New - RBRE960 / RBSE960 Firmware Version 7.2.6.31 Released
Performance has been fine for me. I have Ethernet connected laptops and WiFi throughout the house. I have tested both Orbi 850 and 2 RBS 850s, as well as now, Orbi 960 RBR and 2 RBS 960s. I also went from 1GB/35 Comcast service -> 1GB/200 Comcast service -> 2GB/200 Comcast service on this firmware. Ethernet and WiFi (5GHz and 6GHz devices) have tested fine with speed test. No issues that I saw on 2.4GHz IoT devices.
In general, I think the latest firmware is a little cleaner than the prior version. I am always hopeful the next version will be better still!
2 somewhat related Notes:
1) To me, the WiFi range of the 960 is a little better than the 850 - hence a little better speeds at the same locations. That's anecdotal of course...
2) Do not trust the Orbi app for its speed test. I am convinced at least for me, it must be connecting to some site that's very heavily used or a longer distance away. For example, I frequently get download speeds on the Orbi app around 1500-1800 Mbps, but immediately after if I test with a device (iPad, iPhone, Mac) direct connected to the router, I get 2250-2300 Mbps - over-provisioned. I get 2250-2300 on my Mac laptop that is connected via Ethernet cable that runs throughout the house.
I documented this test in its own thread on the Orbi app forum.
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Re: New - RBRE960 / RBSE960 Firmware Version 7.2.6.31 Released
As I have been using this firmware since it's release, I can say that I waited a good length of time to ride out issues I was having. At the outset, I factory reset my router and upgraded the firmware to the .31 code. My wireless devices were having trouble connecting to one of three signals output from the 960. I tried everything to adjust settings before coming to the conclusion that it was the firmware that I was having issues with. I then downgraded to my current .21 code and all is well again.
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Re: New - RBRE960 / RBSE960 Firmware Version 7.2.6.31 Released
What wireless devices?
I would have performed the FR AFTER v.31 was applied.
Will need more details next time.
@spewak wrote:
As I have been using this firmware since it's release, I can say that I waited a good length of time to ride out issues I was having. At the outset, I factory reset my router and upgraded the firmware to the .31 code. My wireless devices were having trouble connecting to one of three signals output from the 960. I tried everything to adjust settings before coming to the conclusion that it was the firmware that I was having issues with. I then downgraded to my current .21 code and all is well again.
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Re: New - RBRE960 / RBSE960 Firmware Version 7.2.6.31 Released
Hi Furry,
I mistyped. I upgraded and reset and still had the minor issues that have disappeared under the .21 firmware.
Issues are with devices connecting to my main 5ghz wifi ssid. They always get kicked down to the IOT ssid which is mixed. I never had trouble connecting devices until the .31 upgrade. I have a Meta Quest 3 that I had a devil of a time connecting to any of my two ssid after the upgraded firmware. My wife was getting kicked off of wifi several times a day with the .31 firmware.
I post this as it is only my experience. As I have successfully downgraded, everything works fine.
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Re: New - RBRE960 / RBSE960 Firmware Version 7.2.6.31 Released
So, this was not a great feeling...
1 - checking for updates never showed an update available - this for a few weeks
2 - today, I had some time, so I went for a manual update
3 - RBS 1 - no problem
4 - RBS 2 - no problem
5 - RBR960 took 3 times to finally get the firmware to take - it would reboot and be still at .21, after the 3rd try, it worked.
Hasn't been up long enough to know how well things are going, but beyond the update issues, I'm back online and so far, so good.
Oh, and the dropdown list "Associated Products" above isn't showing my RBK963B anymore either...
🤔 🙄
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Re: New - RBRE960 / RBSE960 Firmware Version 7.2.6.31 Released
My bad - "RBKE..." - forgot about that "E".
On the manual update, the only thing I did do differently on the 3rd try for the RBR960 was set tracking prevention temporarily to "Basic" on the browser rather than "Balanced":
Not sure why that would matter, or if it was coincidence... 🤔
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Re: New - RBRE960 / RBSE960 Firmware Version 7.2.6.31 Released
What browser are you using? I use MS Edge and my system took on first load.
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Re: New - RBRE960 / RBSE960 Firmware Version 7.2.6.31 Released
Edge Beta - could be that or could be that tracking setting I changed.
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Re: New - RBRE960 / RBSE960 Firmware Version 7.2.6.31 Released
Ok hopefully.
NG doesn't auto push some minor updates which v.31 is so manual would be needed if not seen by the system.
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