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Orbi 850 VLAN - Can you configure VLANs with the desktop (not Insight) in AP mode?

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Orbi 850 VLAN - Can you configure VLANs with the desktop (not Insight) in AP mode?

I see that I have options in Insight but the desktop shows no LAN or WAN options in AP mode.

Advanced->LAN VLAN settings or whatever...doesn't exist as an option.

For some reason my satellites that were working are now no longer working. All I did was look at VLAN settings in Insight. I think just looking at them changed something but I need a better view as doing it on the phone is not getting me anywhere.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Orbi 850 VLAN - Can you configure VLANs with the desktop (not Insight) in AP mode?

Makes perfect sense. 

Not surprised and not disappointed. It was a corner case that really only makes sense in my world.

 

With the ability to connect over the MoCA I may end up just going to a wireless backhaul as anything that connects wirelessly doesn't need the speed or stability of hardwired solutions. That will eliminate the need for a VLAN. 

Really appreciate your help!

 

Just saved me about five hours of investigation and troubleshooting.

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plemans
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Re: Orbi 850 VLAN - Can you configure VLANs with the desktop (not Insight) in AP mode?

What actual router do you have? The RBK850 series doesn't support insight. That's the pro series. 

And here's features disabled in AP mode

https://kb.netgear.com/000061277/Which-features-are-disabled-on-my-Orbi-router-when-it-is-set-to-AP-...

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Re: Orbi 850 VLAN - Can you configure VLANs with the desktop (not Insight) in AP mode?

NETGEAR Orbi Whole Home Tri-band Mesh Wi-Fi 6 System (RBK853) – Router with 2 Satellite Extenders, Coverage Up to 7,500 Square Feet, 100 Devices, AX6000 (Up to 6Gbps)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082LZKYFL?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1

 

Looks like it's not PRO. 

Weird.

 

Can I do VLANs in AP mode with this model?

 

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plemans
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Re: Orbi 850 VLAN - Can you configure VLANs with the desktop (not Insight) in AP mode?

vlan's for the consumer version are for iptv/fibre setups. 

 

Just viewing the details shouldn't have made the satellite stop working through. 

Are they being used with a wireless backhaul or wired? 

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Re: Orbi 850 VLAN - Can you configure VLANs with the desktop (not Insight) in AP mode?

You folks helped me the other day on this. It was working with your help...

 

But I was hoping to break out the traffic that doesn't need the router traffic and send it directly to the internet using VLANs.

So I popped open the Insight app and was looking around...got to the end of the management VLAN walkthrough and it said "push config." No other options and I didn't make any changes so I pushed. 

 

What I don't know is if the satellites weren't working before I did that. I had made no other changes so my thought is I jacked it up.

 

I've bounced the router and satellites with no luck. I may go ahead and resynch and see if that helps...but as they're on 3 different floors and I'm old and out of shape that's a chore. LOL. 

 

I have the satellites going to a managed switch that's connected to a MoCA network that connects to the LAN ports on the router. (complicated...basically Satellite -> LAN side switch -> MoCA -> Router -> WAN side Switch -> WAN/LAN router -> modem -> Internet.)

 

 

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plemans
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Re: Orbi 850 VLAN - Can you configure VLANs with the desktop (not Insight) in AP mode?

Again, in access point mode, vlan's are disabled. And the consumer router doesn't insight. So I'm not sure what you were clicking on or doing. Maybe you were in the standard app? 

When we were helping you last time, it was with properly wiring in a wired backhaul so they connected properly. 

 

Without knowing exactly what was clicked on, it might be faster for you to just factory reset and reinstall it. 

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Re: Orbi 850 VLAN - Can you configure VLANs with the desktop (not Insight) in AP mode?

Makes perfect sense. 

Not surprised and not disappointed. It was a corner case that really only makes sense in my world.

 

With the ability to connect over the MoCA I may end up just going to a wireless backhaul as anything that connects wirelessly doesn't need the speed or stability of hardwired solutions. That will eliminate the need for a VLAN. 

Really appreciate your help!

 

Just saved me about five hours of investigation and troubleshooting.

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plemans
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Re: Orbi 850 VLAN - Can you configure VLANs with the desktop (not Insight) in AP mode?

Good luck!

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