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hdewitt001
Dec 08, 2021Aspirant
MS510TXUP - POE doest not provide what is needed by Internet Access Point (Aruba 555)
Not sure if it is the same, but I have a MS510TXUP with Power Over Ethernet.
I am using an Aruba AP-555.
It needs approx 38watts to fully operate. However, when I look at the power consumption it only used 13watt, resulting in a situation where the AP is not working properly, basically in restricted mode, which is a result of not enough power.
It has maybe to do with LLDP.
I hope someone can help me out? Thank you.
Where I have the following settings:
LLDP Configuraton:
TLV Advertise Interval 30 secs
Hold Multiplier 4
Reinitiallizing Delay 2
Transmit Delay 60
LLDP Med Properties: 10
LLDP Portsettings:
for relevant port:
Admin status: TX and RX,
Management IP Address: Auto advertise,
Notification: Disable,
Optional TLV's: Enable
LLDP-Medd Port Setting:
Port: mg1 (=relevant port)
LLDP-Med status: Enable
Notification: Enable
Transmit Optional TLV's:
Med Capablities: enable
Network policy: enable
Extended Mdi-PSE: enable
Local information:
10 Replies
- PollyChuAspirant
Hi Sir,
Few questions need your help to double confirm:
Q1) Could we get the lldp med packets between Aruba AP-555 and MS510TXUP? it will be clear for us to confirm the negotiation between them.
Q2) when issue happen, what's the power supply status on MS510TXUP? could we get a screen for it?Q3) could you provide us the firmware version, configuration file? Thanks.
/Polly
- hdewitt001Aspirant
Questions 1: Could we get the lldp med packets between Aruba AP-555 and MS510TXUP? it will be clear for us to confirm the negotiation between them.
How do I get the lldp med packets between Aruba AP-555 and MS510TXUP, visible? Where do I need to look for?
From the Aruba is see the following information:
LLDP Power : Successfully negotiated at 40.0W Current Operational State : No restrictions (Overridden by LLDP) Eth0 HW POE status : POE BT, LLDP power: 40.0W Eth1 HW POE status : NONE, LLDP power: 0.0W
So it look like that there is a proper negotiation between the Aruba IAP 555 and the Netgear Switch POE. I see this information for both IAP's.
Question 2: when issue happen, what's the power supply status on MS510TXUP? could we get a screen for it?
What do you mean what with power supply status?
As what you can see, there are Aruba IAP 555, it only pulls 11300mW and 12100mW, in other words only approx 12w, while you would expect as it was negotiated per port 40W.
Question 3) could you provide us the firmware version, configuration file? Thanks.
Firmware:
Configuration file attached where sensitive info is crossed out
XMG6 and XMG8 are the two Aruba IAP 555, which are connected, and should have 40W of power.
- hdewitt001Aspirant
Questions 1: Could we get the lldp med packets between Aruba AP-555and MS510TXUP? it will be clear for us to confirm the negotiation between them.
How do I get the lldp med packets between Aruba AP-555and MS510TXUP, visible? Where do I need to look for?
From the Aruba is see the following information:
LLDP Power : Successfully negotiated at 40.0W Current Operational State : No restrictions (Overridden by LLDP) Eth0 HW POE status : POE BT, LLDP power: 40.0W Eth1 HW POE status : NONE, LLDP power: 0.0W
So it look like that there is a proper negotiation between the Aruba IAP 555 and the Netgear Switch POE. I see this information for both IAP's.
Question 2: when issue happen, what's the power supply status on MS510TXUP? could we get a screen for it?
What do you mean what with power supply status?
As what you can see, there are Aruba IAP 555, it only pulls 11300mW and 12100mW, in other words only approx 12w, while you would expect as it was negotiated per port 40W.
Question 3) could you provide us the firmware version, configuration file? Thanks.
Firmware:
Configuration file attached where sensitive info is crossed out
XMG6 and XMG8 are the two Aruba IAP 555, which are connected, and should have 40W of power.
- hdewitt001Aspirant
I am very sorry - but I am not able to add pictures which become visible!!!
Questions 1: Could we get the lldp med packets between Aruba AP-555and MS510TXUP? it will be clear for us to confirm the negotiation between them.
How do I get the lldp med packets between Aruba AP-555and MS510TXUP, visible? Where do I need to look for?
From the Aruba is see the following information:
LLDP Power : Successfully negotiated at 40.0W Current Operational State : No restrictions (Overridden by LLDP) Eth0 HW POE status : POE BT, LLDP power: 40.0W Eth1 HW POE status : NONE, LLDP power: 0.0W
So it look like that there is a proper negotiation between the Aruba IAP 555 and the Netgear Switch POE. I see this information for both IAP's.
Question 2: when issue happen, what's the power supply status on MS510TXUP? could we get a screen for it?
What do you mean what with power supply status?
As what you can see, there are Aruba IAP 555, it only pulls 11300mW and 12100mW, in other words only approx 12w, while you would expect as it was negotiated per port 40W.
Question 3) could you provide us the firmware version, configuration file? Thanks.
Firmware:
Configuration file attached where sensitive info is crossed out
XMG6 and XMG8 are the two Aruba IAP 555, which are connected, and should have 40W of power.
- schumakuGuru - Experienced User
hdewitt001 wrote:
I am very sorry - but I am not able to add pictures which become visible!!!
You can, and did it right - the point is that in-line images are subject to manual validation and moderator approval.
- WilsonSNETGEAR Expert
Hi hdewitt001
I'm looking into it to see how to find out possible root cause.
- WilsonSNETGEAR Expert
Hi hdewitt001
From the Aruba is see the following information:
LLDP Power : Successfully negotiated at 40.0W Current Operational State : No restrictions (Overridden by LLDP) Eth0 HW POE status : POE BT, LLDP power: 40.0W Eth1 HW POE status : NONE, LLDP power: 0.0W
I think the Aruba AP is getting necessary power from MS510TXUP without issue.
Power negotiation is one thing. However, actual AP's power consumption is another thing. For example, when only few packets go through the AP, the AP will comsume less power. Could you have maximum loading (maximum traffic throughput) to the AP's 5G and 2.4G bands? Will it increase AP's power consumption?
- hdewitt001Aspirant
Not really. I have tried different settings, with two or three radio's on.
It feels like, that when it notices power, it gets to a minumum mode, and that is 13 watt. While it needs more, but is not asking more, as the AP doesn't ask anymore.
I strongly believe it has to do the LLDP connection, that the Netgear POE isn't able to communicate well with the Aruba. I asked Aruba, and they told me that there no settings I can configure or so, as it should communicate that it needs class 5, and 40w. As you can also see from the pictures I added to my post.
The router by the way, is a Ubiquiti UniFi Dream Machine, which has also a lot of settings. Not sure if that can impact the info that is shared between the Aruba IAP and the Netgear POE switch.
Thank you for your questions.
- WilsonSNETGEAR Expert
Hi hdewitt001
From the Aruba is see the following information:
LLDP Power : Successfully negotiated at 40.0W Current Operational State : No restrictions (Overridden by LLDP) Eth0 HW POE status : POE BT, LLDP power: 40.0W Eth1 HW POE status : NONE, LLDP power: 0.0W
The Aruba AP has done LLDP communication with MS510TXUP and successfully negotiated at 40W. MS510TXUP cannot push 40W into AP forcedly. The AP pulls the power from PoE switch based on the AP's actual power consumption.
1, Could you ask Aruba why the AP only consumes around 13W when LLDP result is show as abvoe?
2, Could you ask Aruba how the AP can consumes more power and even to 40W?
3, Turnning on radios is not equivalent maximum load. Could you add maximum load to all radio bands at the same time to see whether AP's power consumption gets increased (ex: testing it with iPerf on multiple PCs) ?
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