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Dave_Evans1
Feb 02, 2012Aspirant
Reallocated sectors = data loss?
Ultra 6, 3x 2TB
X-RAID2
62% full
I have a failing disk, unfortunately due to a mistake by me I wasn't noticing the warning emails and it looks like its been throwing a steady stream of SMART errors for several months.
I've been in contact with tech support and they have been great, new disk on way despite the original disks not being supplied with the chassis (retailer lied, I'll post another thread on that shortly).
Reallocated sector count on disk 1 now stands at 2690.
I'd like to understand the the implications for the data, I understand the basic concepts behind RAID, I thought X-RAID2 was equivilent to RAID5 so failure of a single disk should not result in any data loss but comment from tech support suggested there was a risk.
Going over the settings I see that;
Disk Scrubbing + Auto Parity Fix
Online Filesystem Consistency Check.
Are NOT enabled. I thought they were, but its been a year since original install. All I can think of is I failed to hit "Apply" to those settings.
Can anyone comment on how X-RAID2 deals with reallocated sectors and the possibility of data corruption?
Cheers,
Dave
X-RAID2
62% full
I have a failing disk, unfortunately due to a mistake by me I wasn't noticing the warning emails and it looks like its been throwing a steady stream of SMART errors for several months.
I've been in contact with tech support and they have been great, new disk on way despite the original disks not being supplied with the chassis (retailer lied, I'll post another thread on that shortly).
Reallocated sector count on disk 1 now stands at 2690.
I'd like to understand the the implications for the data, I understand the basic concepts behind RAID, I thought X-RAID2 was equivilent to RAID5 so failure of a single disk should not result in any data loss but comment from tech support suggested there was a risk.
Going over the settings I see that;
Disk Scrubbing + Auto Parity Fix
Online Filesystem Consistency Check.
Are NOT enabled. I thought they were, but its been a year since original install. All I can think of is I failed to hit "Apply" to those settings.
Can anyone comment on how X-RAID2 deals with reallocated sectors and the possibility of data corruption?
Cheers,
Dave
5 Replies
- mdgm-ntgrNETGEAR Employee RetiredX-RAID2 is like RAID-5.
I would remove that disk. It's clearly failing and only going to cause problems.
There is a possibility you could have a problem e.g. from another failing disk. RAID isn't a replacement for backing up your data. See Preventing Catastrophic Data Loss
After your volume is redundant again, I would enable disk scrubbing monthly and the Online Filesystem Consistency Check weekly. These are good as they can help problems be detected before they become serious. - Dave_Evans1AspirantOk I will pull that disk. The next step from tech support was to replace with one they are sending so.
I understand RAID != backup. Thats a good article though, amusing too :)
I have a reasonably recent backup of the important data. I'm interested to understand if any data on the NAS could be corrupted as I'd prefer to keep treating the NAS as the master copy but I don't want to roll over the existing backup with any corrupt data.
Is it fair to assume that *if* the remaining 2 disks are healthy no data should be damaged? I would have thought so, but again, tech support seemed to be suggesting that is not necessarily the case. I don't quite get that since RAID5 should imply total reduncancy of any single disk but maybe there is something more subtle going on with XRAID2 ?
Although its hot swappable I presume its generally better to power down for disk swaps? (I have no pressing need to keep the NAS powered on). - mdgm-ntgrNETGEAR Employee RetiredIf the other two disks are healthy then most likely the data will be fine. However there are some problems you may possibly encounter. The maintenance checks help reduce the risks of encountering such a problem. RAID is good but it isn't perfect.
Filesystem corruption and issues with parity are possible. If you encounter these you can work with support on the issue. - Dave_Evans1AspirantThanks for all your responses mdgm.
FWIW the other two disks show 0 reallocated sectors so hopefully it will be fine. - MastacheataAspirantIf the reallocated sector count is lower than the number of sectors reserved for that purpose you won't have serious problems.
If the number of reallocated sectors is bigger than that, but there's enough free space available, than you most likely don't have serious problems regarding immediate availability of data on that hard disk.
Reallocating damaged sectors is a failsafe measure and while it definitely is signalling a serious problem with the disk, in most cases there is no data loss at all. It might be that a damaged sector was still readable but no longer writeable or if the sector was really no longer readable there's a good chance this can be handled on application level (i.e. a word document could be repaired or missing information could be guessed by the word application when opening it)
The data from a defunct sector is still preserved by copying it to a spare sector reserved for such purposes, thus "reallocated sector", and in most cases the sector is not completely faulty but maybe one bit flipped, which is usually easy to detect by the application and is then fixed.
The hard disk is broken, needs to be replaced ASAP and will definitely cause problems at some point, but it's very likely that such problems don't yield catastrophic data loss if detected early enough.
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