Orbi Firmware 2.3.1.60

Glad it's working well. Thank you for letting us know about your experiences. Be sure to save off a new backup config to file for safe keeping.

Enjoy. :smileywink:

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franktribe wrote:
So I thought I would see if there was a new firmware today. I was on the Orbi app on my phone. I did a check for firmware update. And there it was .60. I was feeling darning so I clicked update. A few minutes, boom, it’s done. Everything worked. It was clean, easy, and it worked. Very nice. I have an RBR50, and two satellites connected with Ethernet backhaul in both. No issues. Everything just worked. Very nice. I’m impressed with how well things are working now with this model. Love it.

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franktribe wrote:
So I thought I would see if there was a new firmware today. I was on the Orbi app on my phone. I did a check for firmware update. And there it was .60. I was feeling darning so I clicked update. A few minutes, boom, it’s done. Everything worked. It was clean, easy, and it worked. Very nice. I have an RBR50, and two satellites connected with Ethernet backhaul in both. No issues. Everything just worked. Very nice. I’m impressed with how well things are working now with this model. Love it.

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Sounds good for you! We are some in here that have problem with dropping wifi, mayby you also have it,  without knowing about it, due to buffering and so on. Download NetSpot and analyze youre network for 10 min and see.

What is the Mfr and model# of the ISP modem the NG router is connected too?
Is the Orbi system operating in Router or AP mode?

What is the size of your home? Sq Ft?
What is the distance between the router and satellite(s)? 30 feet is recommended in between them to begin with depending upon building materials when wirelessly connected.

What channels are you using? Auto? Try setting manual channel 1, 6 or 11 on 2.4Ghz and any unused channel on 5Ghz.
Any Wifi Neighbors near by? If so, how many?

Also after doing any resets, besure to not load any saved configuration files from back up. Setup from scratch only.

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cdnSpinalTap wrote:

I'm having the same issues with 2.3.1.60 - basically dead in the water.  Details in this thread here.

 

Anyone have additional suggestions?

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Looks like you have solved your issue here:

https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/2-3-1-60-everything-went-to-crap/td-p/1749892/jump-to/first-unread-message

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cdnSpinalTap wrote:

I'm having the same issues with 2.3.1.60 - basically dead in the water.  Details in this thread here.

 

Anyone have additional suggestions?

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You don't have to update. The updates are just there and available for you. You have to make the update happen. NG no longer forces auto FW updates. 

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Hamstar wrote:

On my Orbi RB50 router with 2 satellites, I am running firmware v2.3.1.48 and v2.2.1.60 was dowloaded and sitting in the status box for the router and both satellites.  I do not want to install that just yet.  How do I prevent that?

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thombe wrote:

on rbk50 - in AP mode

 

here is my latest log..

 

[WLAN access rejected: incorrect security] from MAC address 20:39:56:59:8f:ee, Wednesday, May 15, 2019 21:51:12

[WLAN access rejected: incorrect security] from MAC address 04:f1:28:2f:b0:6a, Wednesday, May 15, 2019 20:16:46

[UPnP set event: del_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.188, Wednesday, May 15, 2019 16:30:59

[UPnP set event: add_nat_rule] from source 192.168.1.188, Wednesday, May 15, 2019 16:29:48

 

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thombe, do you know if that MAC address belongs to your Satellite?  If yes, then you'll need to generate a new backhaul password to avoid WiFi instability.  Also, please disable UPnP as it's a security risk.  Since your Orbi is in AP mode, there shouldn't be any NAT rule either.  If everything is working properly, there shouldn't be anything in your log when your Orbi is in AP mode, except for local admin login/NTP time sync info.

Daisy chain disabled? 

What is the Mfr and model# of the ethernet switch if one is in the configuration.

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JMU1998 wrote:

Why does Sattalite show me the exact same attached devices list as main unit? anyone else experiencing this issue? It was not like this before taking 60 Firmware.  I have done multiple factory resets with nvram wipe on both main and satellite and multiple reboots and manually input all info. absolutely nothing else has changed in my setup or environment other than taking 60 Firmware and additionaly sattalite shows as 5g which is incorrect as it is wired.  Reverted to previous Firmware and none of the above mentioned issues encountered so what has changed in 60 to cause these issues? Using AP mode. Have wasted hours!

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V60 is working well for me. There are some that have issues however this is mostly either a configuration issue or after doing a FW update a factory reset and setup from scratch IS needed. This has helped many with getting systems back online after doing a FW update. There are other factors that can cause problems as well. 

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Jomby wrote:

So after reading through the bulk of the posts in this thread, I am thinking best to stay with 44 since it has been quite solid and it is doing all that I need.  I don't want to hear the family screams like I did when I tried those baby orbi's .  I think an early post of just waiting it out until an eero set show up at Costco is the way to go.

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Try a factory reset on the entire system and setup from scratch. 

What is the Mfr and model# of the ISP modem the NG router is connected too?

What is the size of your home? Sq Ft?
What is the distance between the router and satellite(s)? 30 feet is recommended in between them to begin with depending upon building materials when wirelessly connected.

What channels are you using? Auto? Try setting manual channel 1, 6 or 11 on 2.4Ghz and any unused channel on 5Ghz.
Any Wifi Neighbors near by? If so, how many?

Try enabling Beamforming and MIMO(MIMO may or maynot be needed) and WMM. Under Advanced Tab/Advanced Settings/Wireless Settings

Try disabling the following and see:
Daisy Chain, Fast Roaming, IPv6 and Set 20/40Mhz Coexistence to 40Mhz only. Save settings and reboot the router and satellite(s).

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skennedy789 wrote:
Just updated to this firmware and all Mac, iOS, PC, and smart devices in the household are occasionally dropping the WiFi signal since then. :(

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Yep. I'm now having the same issues with various devices losing connectivity and having to reboot them. Going to downgrade until I see an update that seems to be smooth.

Thanks for letting us know your experience with this. 

Be sure you have made a backup configuration to file for safe keeping. If it's been up that long, please take a breath. :smileywink:

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purdyd wrote:

I am afraid to breathe but it seems that both the master and slave have been up for 51 days with this firmware.  That easily eclipses the previous 3 day record.

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Lsuwhodat 

Just a few thoughts. 

It's okay to disable daisychain, recommeded really, if only one satellite in use.

Apples will benefit from MU-MIMO and beamforming.

If 30' separation between base and satellite, I'd go with wireless backhaul and see how that works out.

If you're going to play around with changing channels, using a spectrum analyzer will help more quickly find clean air. 

The host router (what the Orbi is connected to upstream) should be in bridged or passthrough or DMS mode.

If you have Fiber internet and are only getting 75M down, somathing is seriously wrong and needs to be solved.

As a last resort, I'd do one more nuclear test and do a full reset using paperclip method.  Do NOT restore any settings from backup and re-enter config changes manually. 

I'd be surprised if the hardware has changed and I wouldn't bother with that route. 

FWIW, what you describe as a setup is very similar to what I have here with the notable exception of having numerous Amazon devices.

What do you mean by "unstable? Need more details here.

Is the Orbi system operating in Router or AP mode? Can you try the Orbi in AP mode? 

Your LAN switch has Green Ethernet features which don't work well with Orbi systems:

http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/GS308/UnmanagedSwitches300_DS_24Apr14.pdf?_ga=2.17898425.1437504999.1562593211-119182232.1561741332

Can you remove this switch temporarily and test with out it being connected? 

Can you remove the RBS from the mix and just use the RBR and see if it changes anything? 
What is the size of your home? Sq Ft?

What channels are you using? Auto? Try setting manual channel 1, 6 or 11 on 2.4Ghz and any unused channel on 5Ghz.
Any Wifi Neighbors near by? If so, how many?

Try enabling Beamforming and MIMO(MIMO may or maynot be needed) and WMM. Under Advanced Tab/Advanced Settings/Wireless Settings

Try disabling the following and see:
Daisy Chain, Fast Roaming, IPv6 and Set 20/40Mhz Coexistence to 40Mhz only. Save settings and reboot the router and satellite(s).

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Lsuwhodat wrote:

I have had the RBR50 and 1 RBS50 for about 2 years(?) now.  It has worked great over the past few years with the occasional hiccup here and there.  A quick reset and all was well.  2.3.1.60 has made it very unstable.

 

I have Fiber internet so, I just have a jack essentially pluged into the Orbi Router LAN.  I then have it connected via ethernet to the satelitte roughly 30' away.  I am using the other few ethernet jacks on the router and Sat.  I do have a switch (Netgear GS308-100PAS) plugged into the LAN on the Sat.  I have roughly 18 devices on the network (4 Ipads, 2 IPhones, 2 Apple TVs, laptop, desktop, PS4, Ring, Hue, Chamberlin, etc).  My speeds are roughly 75 down and 25 up.

 

Many many reboots

Reset of the system twice.  Works ok for a bit.

Manually "updated" the Sat and the Router via ethernet.

Settings changes, MIMO, beamforming, daisy chain, etc.

Changed channels as my neighbor has an Orbi jsut to see if that made a diff.

Next step is to setup one at a time and do the 24 hour deal and then add the Sat give it 24 hours and so on.

 

I am short on time because I am doing grad school online and if I lose connectivity during a test then I can possibly fail.  I have been troubleshooting since the update came out.  The semester started back up today so I am very close to going to buy a different mesh system all together.  Any other thoughts on what I am doing wrong?  Are the newer RBR50s an upgrade worht the $$ over one a few years old?

 

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