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What is the highest speed that the Orbi's can handle?
Good Day All!
I have the Orbi Mesh Router. The Orbi AC2200 and I have the main router in the living room and a Satelite down in the basement. I have Verizon Fios package that's supposed to give me 1GBPS speeds and I'm not getting anywhere close to those numbers when I run Speedtest.net after I requested the change. I change from the 100/100MBPS up/down and I was getting good numbers, I was getting anywhere from 150mbps to 180mbps with the same setup. After I uploaded to the 1GBPS plan for $59.99 After I upgraded my plan which was yesterday the best numbers I could get were in the screenshot above. I don't know if the Orbi Router's can handles the speeds or if there was something limiting the routers to be able to get faster speeds. I have 2 different routers. One that was provided by Verizon Fios which was no where close to the numbers that the Orbi was getting so I purchased the Orbi setup and ever since I had the 100mbps plan I was consistantly getting over 100mbps up and down. My question is, is there something restricting the Orbi Routers from achieving a higher speed? Are the Orbi Router's capable of handling 1000MBPS upload/download speeds? Will I ever get those speeds or what kind of router do I need to get to be able to get those numbers? I like the mesh setup but ultimately I want to get the best service possible. Any advise will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance for any input.
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Which RBR or RBK do you have? 40 or 50?
What FW is currently loaded?
What is the Mfr and model# of the IP modem/ONT the Orbi is connected too?What is the speed test results with a wired PC and a browser connected to speedtest.net? Wired speedtesting is preferred as wireless can't perform the same as wired.
Did you set up the router and enable QoS speed test, traffic meter or access controls? If yes to any of these, you may need to do a factory erase on the router and set up from scratch, this time, do not enable the QoS speed test, traffic meter or access controls. User mentioned that these will slow the speed down on a 1Gb ISP service...
Are you for real? I have no idea what you're talking about! I'm not a computer technician and I have the RBK50 I think, with the wall socket plug in satellite. It came as a budle. I don't know how to check on the things that you've mentioned. I'm not an IT person. I'm just a normal Joe who has an Orbi Mesh Router and I set it up the way all Orbi's are setup. I didn't change any settings or remove any settings. Everything should be as it were if you get it straight from the factory. Also, I've never seen speeds higher than 300mbps download on my Orbi Router and I was paying for a 1GBPS plan. I don't know if this router can handle speeds higher than 300mbps.
FURRYe38 wrote:
Which RBR or RBK do you have? 40 or 50?
What FW is currently loaded?
What is the Mfr and model# of the IP modem/ONT the Orbi is connected too?What is the speed test results with a wired PC and a browser connected to speedtest.net? Wired speedtesting is preferred as wireless can't perform the same as wired.
Did you set up the router and enable QoS speed test, traffic meter or access controls? If yes to any of these, you may need to do a factory erase on the router and set up from scratch, this time, do not enable the QoS speed test, traffic meter or access controls. User mentioned that these will slow the speed down on a 1Gb ISP service...
I have the RBR40, the one with a base router connected to the FIOS router and a plug in satellite. I have the main router connected to the FIOS router as this was the only way the verizon tech told me I could use another router besides theirs but their router sucks. On a 100/100 plan I can only get about 40-50mbps on wifi and with the Orbi Mesh Router, I get anywhere from 80+ wifi. I never use ethernet eventhough I know it's supposed to be faster and that's the best way of getting the best speeds but the problem is that I don't have a ethernet cable log enough to reach my basement where most of my work is done. The Tech put the router there as it is the centerpoint of the house. I know there is a way to turn off the Verizon FIOS wifi but I don't remember how to do it and I'm sure it's conflicting with my Orbi router and like I said, anyone who can help me replace the FIOS router with my Orbi router then I will pay you $50 via paypal for your time. You also have to help me maximize the setting on my Orbi to get me the best connection. If you can do that then I have no problem paying you for your time. With that said, the more devices I have connected to the router will decrease the speed too right? I'm contemplating whether or not to connect everyone's devices to the Orbi router bc I don't want to bog it down even more. Right now I have about 7 devices and if I got rid of the Verizon router I would need to add an additional 5 devices. that would be about 12+ devices. 5 of which is using the satellite and 2 using the Orbi base system then my mom and dad's iphone and ipad are using the FIOS router. The FIOS router is really crap and I can't stand it but the tech at Verizon FIOS won't help me remove the router altogether and told me the only way I could get the Orbi to work is if I tethered it to the FIOS router. Is this true? Does anyone know if this is true or not? Also, will the more devices you have bog down the network speed or will it not affect it at all? Please let me know. Thanks in advance!
Attached is my most current speedtest using Microsoft Edge on a 2017 Surface Pro i7/8GB/256GB Memory configuration.
I figured out how to replace my FIOS router with the Orbi Router and the speeds are more in line but crazy fast since I only pay $29.99 for 100/100MBPS up/down. I didn't know that you could just unplug the ethernet cable from the FIOS router and connect it to the Orbi and it would work right away. I thought you had to go through configurations and make a whole bunch of changes but I guess not and I guess Verizon Tech's have been lying to me for over 10 yrs now. First I tried to turn off the WiFi on the FIOS router and I ran a test and it was fast. Then I unplugged the ethernet from the FIOS router and plugged it into the Orbi and viola, instant internet. No configurations or anything. Now I have to give my mom and dad my router password. Will the additional 4 device cause me to slow down even more? I guess I don't have to pay for anyone to show me how to re-route my router so the Orbi would work as my main router. I'm thinking maybe I should get another satellite and put it upstairs so it won't slow the network down. What do you guys think? I will have a total of about 15 devices connected between the Orbi base station and the Sattelite. Do you guys think the two routers I have now are sufficient or should I get another satellite just to be sure?
Attached is the speed I got sitting right on top of the satellite router that I have right now with 6 devices connected to it.
Is there a reason why Orbi made their routers so BIG? I mean it doesn't give more more signal or anything bc the satellite seems to be holding well and it's just a wall plug in and 1/4 of the size of the base router. I'm thinking of purchasing another base router and placing it upstairs. Should I get another wall plug in or a regular Orbi size router. We will have about 5 devices upstairs and connected to the base station. The other 5 are connected to my satellite that I have downstairs. What do you guys think? Please let me know. Thanks in advance!
FURRYe38 wrote:
Which RBR or RBK do you have? 40 or 50?
What FW is currently loaded?
What is the Mfr and model# of the IP modem/ONT the Orbi is connected too?What is the speed test results with a wired PC and a browser connected to speedtest.net? Wired speedtesting is preferred as wireless can't perform the same as wired.
Did you set up the router and enable QoS speed test, traffic meter or access controls? If yes to any of these, you may need to do a factory erase on the router and set up from scratch, this time, do not enable the QoS speed test, traffic meter or access controls. User mentioned that these will slow the speed down on a 1Gb ISP service...
It's all good. My internet is working correctly, I just wanted to know how much speed the Orbi can take or can't take. I downgraded my FIOS service back to the $29.99 plan so I'm back at 100/100mbps and I'm getting about the same wifi speeds as the 100/100 so I'm satisfied for now. I just didn't want to pay double the money and then not get the service which I pay for.
Sounds good, ya, your well with in the range of speed handling abilities of the Orbi.
Enjoy. :smileywink:
bryanyu81 wrote:
FURRYe38 wrote:
Which RBR or RBK do you have? 40 or 50?
What FW is currently loaded?
What is the Mfr and model# of the IP modem/ONT the Orbi is connected too?What is the speed test results with a wired PC and a browser connected to speedtest.net? Wired speedtesting is preferred as wireless can't perform the same as wired.
Did you set up the router and enable QoS speed test, traffic meter or access controls? If yes to any of these, you may need to do a factory erase on the router and set up from scratch, this time, do not enable the QoS speed test, traffic meter or access controls. User mentioned that these will slow the speed down on a 1Gb ISP service...
It's all good. My internet is working correctly, I just wanted to know how much speed the Orbi can take or can't take. I downgraded my FIOS service back to the $29.99 plan so I'm back at 100/100mbps and I'm getting about the same wifi speeds as the 100/100 so I'm satisfied for now. I just didn't want to pay double the money and then not get the service which I pay for.
Wired and wireless speeds will be different.
You won't always get gigabit speed across the Internet, because your data will go across links of varying quality. Test your connection speed using the official Verizon speed test on a wired laptop or desktop. This keeps the data within the Verizon network.
Wireless throughput will be less than wired. Orbi has a maximum WiFi link rate of 866 Mbps, so you should expect maximum throughput around 500 Mbps. I've measured up to 520 Mbps WiFi throughput on my Orbi with an iPhone 7+.
unless your wired you will never get 1gb/s on a single wireless connection. that service is designed so multiple devices can have high usage at the same time. a 1x1 connection commonly found in smart phones and laptops will only get a max of 433 mpbs. thats is perfect conditions. realistly with a good strong signal you will only see around 250-300. newer apple products have 2x2 and 3x3 availble so it can max out the orbi wireless connection of 866 mbps 2x2. but you can do this on both the router and satellite at the same time with 4 devices you could reach 1gbps speed. realistic 2x2 speeds are around 650mb/s. its not a orbi problem its just how wifi works. 5ghz has very little range esp at high speed. same room line of sight is required for this. anything else will slow it down. hook up ethernet to do a full bandwitch test. as stated earlier also run the qos speed test again. if it was run with the old setup it will limit the new setup.
waynealight wrote:
newer apple products have 2x2 and 3x3 availble so it can max out the orbi wireless connection of 866 mbps 2x2.
It's important to understand that "max out" doesn't mean you will get 866 Mbps data throughput for a single client. For Orbi, 866 is the maximum physical link rate. With any WiFi system, a single client will only achieve a maximum of about 50-65% of the link rate as throughput, under ideal conditions, due to the overhead involved in WiFi. The best throughput I've seen on a 2x2 866 Mbps link is 600 Mbps. That was with a Unifi LR AP and a brand new 2018 Macbook Pro. The same Macbook did 770 Mbps on a 3x3 1300 Mbps AP.
That's just it! I did a test on my iPhone 8+ and I was getting speeds higher than on my Surface Pro 2017. I do not have a way or connecting to the Orbi router via ethernet nor do I want to. I just want to wake up and have the crap load of money I'm paying for to work as advertised. I got around 400mbps with my iPhone but on my brand new SP 2017 I couldn't get anything above the screenshot that I gave you guys. I'm not a techy person, I love tech-when it works but I know very little about throughput and output etc,. Thanks in advance, I'll try the Verizon Fios speed test but I don't think that'll make a difference bc it's still using the same program. Why would that get me higher speeds? I don't really care about the numbers on the speed test but I do care about how it was functioning and it was not that much faster than the 100/100 plan that I am paying $29.99 for and with that plan, I can upwards of over 100mbps up/down with my Orbi router and that's via wifi and not ethernet. I don't want to connect the Orbi directly to my SP bc I have the main FIOS router setup in the living room as that is the main room in my townhouse and I live in the basement so I have the satellite connected in the basement. It seems to work well when I'm on the 100/100mbps plan but when I swithced to the 1GBPS plan, I barely noticed a difference and I should've noticed a signaficant difference being that it is 10x faster on paper.
st_shaw wrote:
Wired and wireless speeds will be different.
You won't always get gigabit speed across the Internet, because your data will go across links of varying quality. Test your connection speed using the official Verizon speed test on a wired laptop or desktop. This keeps the data within the Verizon network.
Wireless throughput will be less than wired. Orbi has a maximum WiFi link rate of 866 Mbps, so you should expect maximum throughput around 500 Mbps. I've measured up to 520 Mbps WiFi throughput on my Orbi with an iPhone 7+.
That's just it! I did a test on my iPhone 8+ and I was getting speeds higher than on my Surface Pro 2017. I do not have a way or connecting to the Orbi router via ethernet nor do I want to. I just want to wake up and have the crap load of money I'm paying for to work as advertised. I got around 400mbps with my iPhone but on my brand new SP 2017 I couldn't get anything above the screenshot that I gave you guys. I'm not a techy person, I love tech-when it works but I know very little about throughput and output etc,. Thanks in advance, I'll try the Verizon Fios speed test but I don't think that'll make a difference bc it's still using the same program. Why would that get me higher speeds? I don't really care about the numbers on the speed test but I do care about how it was functioning and it was not that much faster than the 100/100 plan that I am paying $29.99 for and with that plan, I can upwards of over 100mbps up/down with my Orbi router and that's via wifi and not ethernet. I don't want to connect the Orbi directly to my SP bc I have the main FIOS router setup in the living room as that is the main room in my townhouse and I live in the basement so I have the satellite connected in the basement. It seems to work well when I'm on the 100/100mbps plan but when I swithced to the 1GBPS plan, I barely noticed a difference and I should've noticed a signaficant difference being that it is 10x faster on paper.
Like I said, anyone who can help me replace my FIOS router with the Orbi Router, I don't mind compensating you via Paypal. E-Mail me at bryan.y.yu@icloud.com. If you can successfully help me replace the router with the Orbi router and max out my settings and I will pay you $50 for your time. I'll even sign whatever agreement you want me to sign. I just don't have the know how but I'm willing to pay anyone who does have the know how!
Current Devices using the Orbi Router:
1) Surface Pro 2017- i7/8GB/256GBMemory
2) 12.9" iPad Pro-Newest Version
3) iPad Mini 4
4) 2 iPhone 8+'s
5) 1 iPhone 5SE
6) Cannon Pixma Printer
I currently have the setup where you have the main router connected to the FIOS router and then the Orbi router tethered. No settings have been changed other than network name and password. I have the plug in satellite router in the basement where I do most of my work plugged in and there are currently 5 devices attached to that router. The main router only has 2 devices attached to it. Will the fact that I have 2 wifi routers affect the speed of my Orbi? if so, how many devices can I have on the Orbi before it starts to slow down? The current FIOS router I have is a POS. When I do a speedtest on the FIOS routers Wifi I get around 30-40mbps up/down but with the Orbi I can sometimes get close to 100/100 or more. See attachment.
Interesting. Didn't know that you could do that for FIOS. I presume that your ISP doesn't really require the 1st router to be there and I presume that there translating from there services somewhere up the line so that its getting a public IP address over ethernet so you could hook up any router at the end point.
How big is your home? Sq Ft?
You can't add another base router to the system, You can add a satellite though.
The Orbi theoretically should be able to handle 1000Mb on the WAN to LAN since all RJ45 ports are 1000Mb supporting. The wireless speeds will never see much over 400-500Mbps depending upon wireless client HW and Mfr design.
Testing of a 50 series RBR has not seen anything near 900Mbps on the WAN to LAN side tests with a wired PC.
This issue has already been reported to NG for review:
