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jpass022
Jun 16, 2019Luminary
M4300-48X Running Temperature high
I have a switch stack with the M4300-52G on top aand the 2 M4300-48X underneath. The M4300-52G operating temperature is 54C (stated max. in GUI is 90C). I can fell the air exhausting from the fans on...
jpass022
Jun 18, 2019Luminary
Your point is taken, I am being vocal hoping someone at Netgear will listen. If I was able to decompile the firmware, modify the fan speed code, and recompile. I'd do that and make a post for people on how to do that if they were having the same trouble as me. But that's not an option, plus I've only owned these a week and for whatever reason, Netgear is very slow to respond to my issue. Plus I have to see this post :
Which so far is smoke and mirrors for me. I'm just wanting a solution so I can get these nice switches in operation.
LaurentMa
Jun 19, 2019NETGEAR Expert
Hi jpass022
Thank you for all your messages. I am sorry that you encountered an issue with a power supply unit with no fans apparently working. NETGEAR M4300 switches have a functional fail rate that is extremely low as we are striving for maximum quality, but a defect can happen during transport etc. You followed the right process by opening a ticket at NETGEAR Technical Support, as your problem will be assessed and you are entitled to a lifetime next-business-day replacement for any hardware defect like that.
Your ideas about firmware are great, but for your information, fan speeds aren't controlled by a software image in a switch firmware, this is not a PC motherboard. Again, if your PSU is defect, we shall replace it.
Please send me your ticket (case number) by private message so that I can see why you say that NETGEAR is slow to respond to you. This forum is a Community forum only, hence it is important to log a case at NETGEAR Technical Support when there is a technical issue.
Regards,
- LaurentMaJun 19, 2019NETGEAR Expert
Hi John
thank you, I have escalated your case, a Technical Support agent will contact you.
Laurent Masia
- jpass022Jun 24, 2019Luminary
Thanks for your assistance, waiting to hear back from Engineering on my fan speed issue...
- jpass022Jul 01, 2019Luminary
Another week goes by with no response...
- jpass022Jul 02, 2019Luminary
Greetings,
Found these other cases in forum that were fan/firmware related:
We didn't intentionally raise fan speeds and lower operating temperature in recent 6.6.1.x firmware for our XS708T/XS716T 10G Smart Managed Switches, versus 6.6.0.x before. With latest firmware, we don't show such modification either in our labs: fan speed remains the same.
This is all normal, let me explain what is happening. After 12.0.7.12 (latest M4300 family software upgrade), the M4300-8X8F is shutting down its main fans when the ambiant temperature is under 25 degrees Celsius (77 Fahrenheit). As soon as the ambiant temperature gets warmer, fans will start again, as usual.
Maybe I'n using the wrong word, maybe I should be daying 'Software' instead of 'Firmware"?
- schumakuJul 02, 2019Guru - Experienced User
The unlucky half-finished 12.0.7.12 specs change for the 8X8F should not affect your models.
And there is just one owner with a XS708T/XS716T 6.6.1.x firmware - which does not have any change in the fan speed tables - reporting a louder switch. Completely unrelated.
- jpass022Jul 02, 2019Luminary
Thanks for the info. The point I was eluding to is that I was told the fans aren't regulated by software. But these cases are indicating that software does control fan speed....
- jpass022Jul 02, 2019Luminary
sorry, I meant alluding, not eluding . :smileyhappy: I just want to use these expensive and great switches I bought without having to worry about the burning up because the power supply fans aren't running at all and the case fans are barely running. My M4300-52G fan speeds are perfect and temperature is great. I'm just wanting the same performance fron my 2 M4300-48X switches. If I can get this problem resolved, I plan on buying more M4300s.
- schumakuJul 02, 2019Guru - Experienced User
Mistaken. The modular power supply (or supplies) fans are temperature controlled only, not firmware/software controls. The switch fan(s) are firmware/software controlled up to some degree.
- jpass022Jul 02, 2019Luminary
Shumaku,
I really appreciate your feedback, thank you. I'm learning alot from your comments.:smileyhappy:
Another question, why would a 450W PSU in the M4300-48X have a proper fan speed, as compared to my M4300-52G and none of 4 250W PSUs have any fan speed in the M4300-48X?
Also, why would the M4300-48X case fan speed be slower than the M4300-52G fan speed? They are Stacked and all running the same 12.0.7.15 software?
- schumakuJul 03, 2019Guru - Experienced User
For the modular power supplies, I can only assume that the fans are temperature and/or load controlled. The few M4300 we're operating are on the hot top of racks, so there is high fan activity - simply becaue of the high temperatures around.
Has nobody from Netgear established a contact with you?
- jpass022Jul 03, 2019Luminary
Yes, they asked for logs and a few questions 2 weeks ago. No answers yet...
- bztDec 18, 2019Tutor
I'm looking at buying into Netgear, and a M4300 stack looks compelling, but the various reports of high temperature issues with the M4300-48X give me pause. Has there been any recent progress on this problem?
- schumakuDec 19, 2019Guru - Experienced User
Various? Can just find this thread - the oddity with the 8X8F LED going amber with the intentionally allowed "fan-free" operations on lower temperatures was explained above.
- bztDec 19, 2019Tutor
Mostly this thread and this amazon review:
"They run great, good throughput, working as expected, BUT, they run SUPER HOT. In a properly cooled computer room and equipment rack, if you put your hand on the bottom of the switch, you can almost not keep it there, it's burning hot. We've had 2 fail already, it will be very hard to convince me it's not from overheating."
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