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cpitchford
May 22, 2009Guide
More on CPU specs of the ReadyNAS Pro
Hi all,
Does anyone know what FSB speeds the ReadyNAS Pro motherboard supports.
I have three "servers" that I'm trying to consolidate. I figured that the file server (which is actually the slowest machine) would be replaced by the NAS but I'm actually trying to merge some other services onto the box which much luck so far..
One feature I'm working on porting is my Tivo transcoder. Essentially I have a small system that pulls programs off my Tivo, transcodes them and uploads (via WiFi/ethernet) to my portable media player. It means when I get home my media player syncs with my now-playing list so I can watch TV on the train too and from work. Since I work miles and miles away, I don't have time to watch TV at home so it's the only way I can watch TV..
I have the package working on the NAS, and I'm working on the integration with the front end (like managing black-lists and so on). I'd like to bump the speed of the processor but obivously the newer energy efficient <65W intel chips all seem to be 1333MHz FSB. Is this supported on this NAS? I know the warranty is void with this type of fiddling, but that is a risk I'm happy to take.. I also understand you wouldn't recommend an upgrade like this, but I would really like to know if it were possible..
I'll make all the code (mplayer is the driver behind the transcoding) available to anyone if interested.. but it is important to realise this is a Series 1 Tivo and an Archos 705/605 media player, not a common combination..
Does anyone know what FSB speeds the ReadyNAS Pro motherboard supports.
I have three "servers" that I'm trying to consolidate. I figured that the file server (which is actually the slowest machine) would be replaced by the NAS but I'm actually trying to merge some other services onto the box which much luck so far..
One feature I'm working on porting is my Tivo transcoder. Essentially I have a small system that pulls programs off my Tivo, transcodes them and uploads (via WiFi/ethernet) to my portable media player. It means when I get home my media player syncs with my now-playing list so I can watch TV on the train too and from work. Since I work miles and miles away, I don't have time to watch TV at home so it's the only way I can watch TV..
I have the package working on the NAS, and I'm working on the integration with the front end (like managing black-lists and so on). I'd like to bump the speed of the processor but obivously the newer energy efficient <65W intel chips all seem to be 1333MHz FSB. Is this supported on this NAS? I know the warranty is void with this type of fiddling, but that is a risk I'm happy to take.. I also understand you wouldn't recommend an upgrade like this, but I would really like to know if it were possible..
I'll make all the code (mplayer is the driver behind the transcoding) available to anyone if interested.. but it is important to realise this is a Series 1 Tivo and an Archos 705/605 media player, not a common combination..
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- KorkyAspirant
grimloch wrote: cpitchford wrote:
Now, the temp1 is still higher than the "max" value.. I still don't know if that is a problem.. however. temp2 on frontview reports a MUCH healthier 53 degrees C
So.. the E6600 is 8 degrees cooler running flat out.. and is below the 60 degree limit.. both CPU cores report higher than max levels.. but both are lower than the "crit" level.. so I'm still working out (reading the source and CPU spec) what this means.
Slight pain is that the CPU cooler is attached with screws.. the backing plate is part of the case so heatsinks that screw on can be used.. Stock intel coolers, for example, with their push plugs cannot be used in this case.
If only the case was 1 CM wider a MUCH nicer fan could be put in..but from what I can tell, the tallest cooler you could use is 53mm and the selection is limited..
From what I can tell, the NAS is happy and relatively cool running an E6600, but an E6700 is going to be pushing it.. I've not tried a kernel compile reliability test or a memtest on the E6700 but I don't honestly think the CPU cooler is up to it..
If I can get a larger cooler, that uses screws rather than push plugs, I might try again.. but in the mean time 2.4Gig seems that safe limit with the stock readynas cooler.. (which is remarkably small compared to the intel stock ones! like less than half the height!)
Shame.. Still 2.4G is pretty damn good! :)
If I find out what the temp1_max actually means (ie can it be safely exceeded / temp1_crit is the REAL top limit) I'll let you all know
Sounds like we're working with 53mm max height for the heatsink (without modification), which is pretty limiting.
Sent from my MB855 using Tapatalk 2
Can we not modify the existing heatsink?
is it the heatsink thats not good enough for the job, or is it the the fan that sits ontop? - grimlochAspirantProbably both, but more so the heatsink.
Sent from my MB855 using Tapatalk 2 - KorkyAspirant
grimloch wrote: I found an E6600 on my local craigslist for about $50 last year. I have an android app called "Craigslist Notification" that searches multiple times a day for many items, including "E6700", which seems more difficult to find. I see E6600s pop up in used desktop systems quite regularly.
There are plenty available on eBay - grimlochAspirantWhen I looked on Ebay they were going for a premium. CL is almost always cheaper.
Sent from my MB855 using Tapatalk 2 - KorkyAspirantSo the best CPU now stands as the Q6700 Quad
Here is the frontpanel view running Plex transcoding MKV files to two different clients at 1080p, as well as copying 312 GB of data from NAS Ultra to my PC at the same time (figures below taken after 4 hours of heavy use) :
Fan SYS 1339 RPM OK
Fan CPU 2163 RPM OK
Temp SYS 57 C / 134 F [Normal 0-65 C / 32-149 F] OK
Temp CPU 33 C / 91 F [Normal 0-85 C / 32-185 F] OK
>
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/temp1_max:82000
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/temp1_label:Core 0
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/temp1_crit_alarm:0
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/temp1_input:43000
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/temp1_crit:100000
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.1/temp1_max:82000
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.1/temp1_label:Core 1
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.1/temp1_crit_alarm:0
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.1/temp1_input:43000
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.1/temp1_crit:100000
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.2/temp1_max:82000
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.2/temp1_label:Core 2
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.2/temp1_crit_alarm:0
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.2/temp1_input:42000
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.2/temp1_crit:100000
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.3/temp1_max:82000
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.3/temp1_label:Core 3
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.3/temp1_crit_alarm:0
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.3/temp1_input:45000
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.3/temp1_crit:100000
/sys/devices/platform/w83627ehf.2576/temp1_input:58000
/sys/devices/platform/w83627ehf.2576/temp1_max:127000
/sys/devices/platform/w83627ehf.2576/temp1_max_hyst:125000
/sys/devices/platform/w83627ehf.2576/temp1_alarm:0
/sys/devices/platform/w83627ehf.2576/temp1_type:4
/sys/devices/platform/w83627ehf.2576/temp2_input:33500
/sys/devices/platform/w83627ehf.2576/temp2_max:80000
/sys/devices/platform/w83627ehf.2576/temp2_max_hyst:123000
/sys/devices/platform/w83627ehf.2576/temp2_alarm:0
/sys/devices/platform/w83627ehf.2576/temp2_type:1
/sys/devices/platform/w83627ehf.2576/temp3_input:2000
/sys/devices/platform/w83627ehf.2576/temp3_max:80000
/sys/devices/platform/w83627ehf.2576/temp3_max_hyst:123000
/sys/devices/platform/w83627ehf.2576/temp3_alarm:0
/sys/devices/platform/w83627ehf.2576/temp3_type:4
Memory: 4096 MB [6-6-6-18 DDR2]
CPU Q6700 Quad
Standard FAN and Heatsink
Whats strange is that the FAN was running at 3500RPM last night just transcoding one of the files (front panel figures for last night below). I took the CPU out last night and replaced it with the E6700, today I put back the Q6700 but this time used Artic Silver 5 Thermal Compound. However, I don't see how the Artic Silver 5 has made up the difference!
Figures for lastnight:
Fan SYS 1739 RPM OK
Fan CPU 3443 RPM OK
Temp SYS 57 C / 134 F [Normal 0-65 C / 32-149 F] OK
Temp CPU 51 C / 123 F [Normal 0-85 C / 32-185 F] OK
I'm going to monitor the situation and see where is takes me. I might invest in a better fan/heatsink at some point - any suggestions?
Also, If anyone can suggest alternative tests or stats to compare ? I will provide the output for all in this tread
so far its looking good :D - chirpaLuminary
E2160 is hard to get these days. So the product line would eventually move to the E5300 when stock becomes an issue. No harm in replacing a component with something of higher value.Korky wrote: surprised to find a E5300 (2.6 GHz processor) and not the advertised E2160 1.8Ghz CPU in the ultra 6 plus ! - KorkyAspirant
chirpa wrote:
E2160 is hard to get these days. So the product line would eventually move to the E5300 when stock becomes an issue. No harm in replacing a component with something of higher value.Korky wrote: surprised to find a E5300 (2.6 GHz processor) and not the advertised E2160 1.8Ghz CPU in the ultra 6 plus !
pleasantly surprised that's all :) - grimlochAspirantHas that Q6700 melted your NAS yet? Wondering if it's safe to put one in my Pro..
Sent from my MB855 using Tapatalk 2 - KorkyAspirantNo it hasnent fried the ultra yet, but I'm not convinced! The stock cooler/fan is just not upto the job, as one of the previous forum user pointed out. Im not running it for long periods so not a problem for me. I wouldn't keep it in my ultra if i was running it 24/7. So to answer your question, no I wouldnt put the q7600 in just yet. I am looking at replacing the heatsink(one should be arriving anytime now) and the fan. I will run more tests before I leave the CPU in for longer periods.
I will keep you posted. - iwaleedInitiateI test today E7400 2.8GHz SLGW3 this support (VT-x) and also work with Pro 6 Bios version (07/26/2010 FLAME6-MB V2.0) also work with Ultra 6 Plus after upgrade the Bios version to (07/26/2010 FLAME6-MB V2.0)
rocessor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 23
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7400 @ 2.80GHz
stepping : 10
cpu MHz : 2793.002
cache size : 3072 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 2
core id : 0
cpu cores : 2
apicid : 0
initial apicid : 0
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 13
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 xsave lahf_lm dts tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority
bogomips : 5586.00
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:
processor : 1
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 23
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7400 @ 2.80GHz
stepping : 10
cpu MHz : 2793.002
cache size : 3072 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 2
core id : 1
cpu cores : 2
apicid : 1
initial apicid : 1
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 13
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 xsave lahf_lm dts tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority
bogomips : 5585.02
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:
I noticed the Temp. is lower than E6700 in the same system difference about 10ºC
E7400 Temperature/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/temp1_max:76000
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/temp1_label:Core 0
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/temp1_crit_alarm:0
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/temp1_input:34000
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/temp1_crit:100000
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.1/temp1_max:76000
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.1/temp1_label:Core 1
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.1/temp1_crit_alarm:0
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.1/temp1_input:33000
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.1/temp1_crit:100000
E6700 Temperature/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/temp1_max:80000
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/temp1_label:Core 0
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/temp1_crit_alarm:0
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/temp1_input:44000
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/temp1_crit:100000
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.1/temp1_max:80000
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.1/temp1_label:Core 1
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.1/temp1_crit_alarm:0
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.1/temp1_input:43000
/sys/devices/platform/coretemp.1/temp1_crit:100000
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