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Kojak1
May 08, 2014Aspirant
Mac Access as Admin
Hi,
I am getting a Mac next week, and a little unsure of the big wide world of Mac.!
Currently on my PC, I have to connect to the files as Admin (using DOS Prompt etc) - otherwise I cant change, add, delete files, without it through up a User Access Error.
How do I connect this way, using a Mac.??
On a tangent, the above is a right pain.!
Is there a way that I can access/amend files normally - without having to connect in this way.?? It's something like Unix/Root access rights.!?!?
I am getting a Mac next week, and a little unsure of the big wide world of Mac.!
Currently on my PC, I have to connect to the files as Admin (using DOS Prompt etc) - otherwise I cant change, add, delete files, without it through up a User Access Error.
How do I connect this way, using a Mac.??
On a tangent, the above is a right pain.!
Is there a way that I can access/amend files normally - without having to connect in this way.?? It's something like Unix/Root access rights.!?!?
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- Kojak1AspirantYes it is clearer now, thanks. Sorry, bit of a novice on this kinda stuff.
Sticking to Windows, and the NAS settings.... the folder/share had an owner of 'nobody'. So I have changed that to me.
In the first folder, I can add files, but subfolders it says 'access denied, you need permission.....'.
It was all mucked up some time ago, when I got in touch with Netgear Support, and never sorted it since.
I have a funny feeling it is to do with 'right click security permissions' on the folders as you view them in Win Explorer.! - xeltrosApprenticeWhat I can say is that my NAS has in its options "file access" :
folder owner : guest
folder group : guest
read/write for : everyone, folder owner folder group.
I have an RN104 on OS6 so this may or may not be the good settings for you. You can always try to create an new share and see what default settings they have and mimic them. Of course, even if it doesn't seem dangerous a backup is always a good thing before any testing.
PS : better asking questions than staying ignorant. - Kojak1AspirantCheers, I'll try that and let you know.
I only want me to access the files, bar the ones in media, as they are viewed on DLNA at home, iPad, tv, xbox etc.
Thanks again. - xeltrosApprenticeDLNA doesn't have any authentication, at least none that I am aware of.
I said earlier that linux apply the most restrictive of two parameters, so even if everyone can see anything file system wide, if access rights (SMB, FTP...) are set properly the share shouldn't be seen by anyone except those authorised in share parameters.
Think about authentication like doors in a corridor. If you want to pass the second door, you have to pass the first one. The first door here is share settings, so you got one key for that door, then the system tries to list files but to do so it checks if you are authorised to do so with linux and here come system rights, the second key. So setting "everyone can do anything" on linux means trust the gatekeeper of the first door, he knows what he is doing. - Kojak1AspirantHi,
Please be gentle..... the Mac arrived today, and I am a novice.!
So as before, I am connecting to it and can view files, but get an error when saving or editing etc.
Am really lost here.
I have checked on the NAS, and I am down as the owner of the share - and have full rights.
Help please - in layman's terms. - xeltrosApprenticehas the user account been tested on windows ? This kind of error is related to either a network connectivity problem (typically the network dropped after file listing) or, less frequently since access denied also exists, a right management issue (you have rights for the share, but you may not have the good rights for the underlying linux of the NAS).
Did you try with both AFP and CIFS ?
For RAIDar, you may be able to skip it and go through the web interface directly by entering your NAS IP address into a web browser. - Kojak1AspirantOkay, cheers, I will look into it, and can check on my wives laptop.
I don't even know the difference between all the types of file shares, as in CIFS, FTP etc etc.
Sorry.! - xeltrosApprenticeThey use different protocols. To get things simple, a protocol is a set of rules that is used between two devices to communicate. Protocols are not compatible between them but some software do handle several of them.
AFP is used mainly by apple, NFS mainly by linux, CIFS(=SMB) is used by windows and is the most compatible format with others.
HTTP is web sharing, FTP is file sharing for internet.
Rsync is used to transfer files for backups, it doesn't send everything, only what's missing/needing update.
DLNA is used to communicate with TV/Blu-ray/Consoles in order to display console.
So You'll only use CIFS or AFP for personal use I think, both do the same thing, AFP used to be faster (less ressource-hungry) than SMB but I don't know if that's true nowadays. You can test them and choose later since protocols only define how to communicate, not the data. That's a bit like going from point A to point B by car or by plane. Plane communicate by radio to signal where they are going, whereas cars only have light signals to change lane, one can't understand the other but still you can get to the airport with both. - Kojak1Aspirant
xeltros wrote: They use different protocols. To get things simple, a protocol is a set of rules that is used between two devices to communicate. Protocols are not compatible between them but some software do handle several of them.
AFP is used mainly by apple, NFS mainly by linux, CIFS(=SMB) is used by windows and is the most compatible format with others.
HTTP is web sharing, FTP is file sharing for internet.
Rsync is used to transfer files for backups, it doesn't send everything, only what's missing/needing update.
DLNA is used to communicate with TV/Blu-ray/Consoles in order to display console.
So You'll only use CIFS or AFP for personal use I think, both do the same thing, AFP used to be faster (less ressource-hungry) than SMB but I don't know if that's true nowadays. You can test them and choose later since protocols only define how to communicate, not the data. That's a bit like going from point A to point B by car or by plane. Plane communicate by radio to signal where they are going, whereas cars only have light signals to change lane, one can't understand the other but still you can get to the airport with both.
Awesome explanation, with great analogy.. cheers, I know at least understand them a bit.
And as you suggested, I can connect and seem to be able to edit/delete/add files when using the AFP connection.
Loving my Mac too which is a bonus - just need to get used to it now.
Bit cheeky as this is going off original topic, but any suggestions on a sync software, from Mac to NAS.?
Although a bit glitchy, I used to use SyncToy. - xeltrosApprenticeMac hardware is just fantastic in terms of design, not powerful and not cheap but really well thought I enjoy using them (or I dislike using anything else depending if you see the glass half-full or not ;)).
OS X is quite good also. I love their keyboard mechanism. You have a shortcut for nearly everything. you want to go to the application folder ? cmd+shit+a. A search ? cmd+space. a screenshot on a specific area ? cmd+shit+4 (then drag the pointer of push space for the entire window). The only things I miss is the ability to get a window in full size mode without dragging the edge of it (since OS X preferred to have a fit to content button instead).
I hate going back on a windows machine now, I find it slow (I have a friend with a machine twice as fast as mine and I feel mine is faster...). but Linux/BSD is definitely the way to go if you want the fastest possible OS because it's highly customisable.
As for sync software I use bittorent sync because I need to sync while outside home, otherwise Time Machine takes care of it. I also use rsync for most linux operating systems but that would be command line and automation via plist file in OSX which may not be the best course for a beginner.
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