Spinpoint F4 HD204UI 2TB 5400 RPM working good so far
There was a recent deal at NewEgg on the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F4 HD204UI 2TB 5400 RPM 32MB drives, so I decided to risk it as opposed to the other WD & Seagate 2tb drives. I installed them, upgraded the ReadyNAS firmware then did a factory reset. Disk 4 took most of an evening to resync, but finally finished. So far it's been running fine as I've been copying data off my old NV+ on to the new Ultra 4.
The Ultra 4 is sitting in the bottom of my gun safe, so low heat is rather important to me and I thought a 5400 would be a better bet. So far I haven't seen any Temp1 above 140f or so and the HD's are usually at or under 100f, never seen one above 108f. I was worrried that the enclosed fireproof safe would end up retaining too much heat, but it's been 3 days now with no problems. When I have the safe open the drives are very quiet, not surprisingly closed you can't hear a thing at all.
Will try and post later when I see how they hold up.
Re: Spinpoint F4 HD204UI 2TB 5400 RPM working good so far
I keep wigging out weekly when I see an E-mail come in like "RAID event detected. (YourNAS)", but it's just the weekly scrub & integrity checks I have scheduled (always clean). No problems at all so far.
Haven't seen the HD's pass 105 or so & temp1 over 140. Safe is a little warm when I open it, but not anywhere close to hot at all.
Re: Spinpoint F4 HD204UI 2TB 5400 RPM working good so far
I just purchased an Ultra 4 from Provantage and more Samsung F4 drives from NewEgg; eight in all. I just couldn't resist that low price either. I've been running two of the F4 drives as a hardware RAID1 arrays in a new PC and have been pleased with how cool and noise free they are. I plan to create a second software RAID1 array within OSX (its a dual boot Win7 x64/Hackintosh machine) and then load the remainder into the ReadyNAS for backing everything up. So glad to hear that you are having good luck with your drives. The 3-yr warranty and my past bad experience with a Samsung DLP TV made me think long and hard before going with their drives, but the reviews seem favorable and using them in RAID relieves most of my data loss worries should they die prematurely. It does make me nervous that they are not on Netgear's compatibility list. I don't see them listing drives that failed compatibility and/or are waiting to be tested, so it makes me wonder which category these fall into.
Re: Spinpoint F4 HD204UI 2TB 5400 RPM working good so far
Just upgraded the two Spinpoint F3 HD103UI to two Spinpoint FD HD204UI in my ReadyNas Duo. Everything went as expected and the volume is now expanded.
I upgraded the Firmware to RAIDiator 4.1.7-T60 first, then unplugged the first disk and replaced it with the new 2TB disk. Initialization and resynch too just over 14 hours. I then did the same with the second disk and this took the same length of time.
Once the Volume was reported as Redundant, I rebooted the NAS from Frontview. Once it had started up again, it asked me to reboot to complete the Expansion. I rebooted a second time and just eight minutes later, the volume had been successfully expanded to 1859GB. :thumbsup:
Re: Spinpoint F4 HD204UI 2TB 5400 RPM working good so far
Your disks are 4k sector disks so you should have backed up all data, verified backup is good, update to 4.1.7 T48 or later (already done this so need to do it again), done a System > Config Backup, factory default (http://www.readynas.com/forum/faq.php#How_do_I_reset_the_ReadyNAS_to_factory_default%3F), restore Config Backup, restore data from backup.
Without alignment for 4k sectors you may have poor write performance.
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Yes, reading the release notes is important.
When I said to factory default, I forgot to mention to do that with the new disks (i.e. the HD204UI) in place (but that is obvious from reading the release notes).
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Hello mdgm
I've just read the posts above and the instructions that you'd given. Where are those instructions accessed from? For my future reference. Where are the release notes that you've instructed on. I'm in the process of upgrading hard drives etc. , so just doing the research bit. How do you know those Samsungs are 4 sector disks? I just need a bit of guidance here.
I've just gone back to the HCL and there's nothing there about these disks. Where would I find such info?
Re: Spinpoint F4 HD204UI 2TB 5400 RPM working good so far
The Public Beta forum has a thread with the release notes for the beta. The Announcements forum contains links to the release notes for production firmware.
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Thanks mdgm
Have been away from the forum and not staying on top of the ReadyNas latest info etc.. Sometimes we need a helping hand, memory jog and a push in the right direction. Thanks
Is it me, or this hard drive upgrade business hard at the minute. Is it because the technologies on the cusp of changing? Like I said, I've not really kept up to date, but I'm assuming all new hard drives will be going this way with the 4k sectors and so the Duo is old technology trying to keep up? Is that about right? Or I've read into wrong?
In other words, are the hard drives going to be this 4K sector from now on, and I'd better refresh myself with some tech to keep up to speed?
Are there any new large hard drives out there that don't need this juggling of 4K sector stuff?
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Many thanks to mdgm. I have now just copied all my data back onto the NAS. The partition logs now show that the disks are aligned for the 4k sectors and performance is as it should be.
Re: Spinpoint F4 HD204UI 2TB 5400 RPM working good so far
Hey everyone,
I just installed 2 of these drives in my ReadyNAS duo myself. I updated the firmware to 4.1.7-T60 and started a Factory Default from FrontView, after which I used RAIDar to set the device to Raid 1 mode.
Everything seems to work fine, it's syncing now at 90 to 100MB/sec ... however Hingy here said the partition logs for him now show "disks are aligned for the 4K sectors" I've looked in partition.log and can't find anything that would suggest 4K sectors 😕
The Log looks like this now:
Disk /dev/md0 doesn't contain a valid partition table Disk /dev/md1 doesn't contain a valid partition table Disk /dev/md2 doesn't contain a valid partition table
Disk /dev/hdc: 2000.3 GB, 2000398934016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 243201 cylinders, total 3907029168 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00000000
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdc1 32 4096031 2048000 fd Linux raid autodetect Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/hdc2 4096032 5144607 524288 fd Linux raid autodetect Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/hdc3 5144608 3907012815 1950934104 fd Linux raid autodetect
Disk /dev/hde: 2000.3 GB, 2000398934016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 243201 cylinders, total 3907029168 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00000000
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hde1 32 4096031 2048000 fd Linux raid autodetect Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/hde2 4096032 5144607 524288 fd Linux raid autodetect Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/hde3 5144608 3907012815 1950934104 fd Linux raid autodetect Note: sector size is 1024 (not 512)
Disk /dev/md0: 2097 MB, 2097086464 bytes 2 heads, 4 sectors/track, 255992 cylinders, total 2047936 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 1024 = 1024 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00000000
Note: sector size is 1024 (not 512)
Disk /dev/md1: 536 MB, 536805376 bytes 2 heads, 4 sectors/track, 65528 cylinders, total 524224 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 1024 = 1024 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00000000
Note: sector size is 1024 (not 512)
Disk /dev/md2: 1997.7 GB, 1997756432384 bytes 2 heads, 4 sectors/track, 243866752 cylinders, total 1950934016 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 1024 = 1024 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00000000
Re: Spinpoint F4 HD204UI 2TB 5400 RPM working good so far
Wracky wrote:
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdc1 32 4096031 2048000 fd Linux raid autodetect Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/hdc2 4096032 5144607 524288 fd Linux raid autodetect Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/hdc3 5144608 3907012815 1950934104 fd Linux raid autodetect
That's fine. You can see the start numbers are divisible by 8 and the first one is 32, which is what you expect to see with 4k sector alignment on Sparc ReadyNAS. Remember 512 bytes * 8 = 4k
Re: Spinpoint F4 HD204UI 2TB 5400 RPM working good so far
mdgm
if one wanted to add another one of these 4k drives in the future can they be added without a factory default if the previous drives have already been aligned with a factory default?
Re: Spinpoint F4 HD204UI 2TB 5400 RPM working good so far
goondog wrote:
if one wanted to add another one of these 4k drives in the future can they be added without a factory default if the previous drives have already been aligned with a factory default?
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thanks mdgm. i now have running 1 hitachi 2TB off the HCL and 2XSamsung F4s with 3.6T total I plan on adding another samsung 2TB next week for a total of about 5.4TB
i factory reset the first three drives and everything looks ok but wanted to make sure i got 4K properly set up. below is my partition log: thanks again for all the help on the forums!
Disk /dev/hdg doesn't contain a valid partition table
Disk /dev/hdc: 2000.3 GB, 2000388448256 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 243200 cylinders, total 3907008688 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00000000
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdc1 32 4096031 2048000 83 Linux Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/hdc2 4096032 4608031 256000 82 Linux swap / Solaris Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/hdc3 4608032 3906992335 1951192152 5 Extended /dev/hdc5 4608040 3906992335 1951192148 8e Linux LVM
Disk /dev/hde: 2000.3 GB, 2000388448256 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 243200 cylinders, total 3907008688 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00000000
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hde1 32 4096031 2048000 83 Linux Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/hde2 4096032 4608031 256000 82 Linux swap / Solaris Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/hde3 4608032 3906992335 1951192152 5 Extended /dev/hde5 4608040 3906992335 1951192148 8e Linux LVM
Disk /dev/hdg: 2000.3 GB, 2000388448256 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 243200 cylinders, total 3907008688 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00000000
Re: Spinpoint F4 HD204UI 2TB 5400 RPM working good so far
I basicly asked the same question yesterday, and since this was mdgm's answer: "You can see the start numbers are divisible by 8 and the first one is 32, which is what you expect to see with 4k sector alignment on Sparc ReadyNAS. Remember 512 bytes * 8 = 4k"
Re: Spinpoint F4 HD204UI 2TB 5400 RPM working good so far
I currently have 3 HD2030WI drives in an NVX Pioneer with firmware 4.2.15 and want to add a 4th drive. Does anyone know if I add a new HD2040UI, would I have a problem with sector alignment since this is the first 4k drive added to my volume? Or would I still have to do a factory default?
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making sure i did this correctly.
i upgraded to 4.1.7-T60 and factory defaulted my NV+ with 1 hitachi 2TB off the HCL and with 2 2T F4 drives and all went really well getting the 4k drives installed thanks to everyones help.
i just got my last 2TB F4 drive in and put it into the last bay and turned the nv+on.
my LED pattern show the 3 green lights for bays 1-3 lit on and bay 4 flashing quickly. The activity light blinks 2-3X per minute. The blue power light is constant. i am able to access raidar and i have a yellow circle next to the nas mac address. I can go into setup and it says its initializing and i did get a notice that initializing has begun.
is it normal to have that yellow circle on raidar?. I dont remember that when i did the factory reset and i remember more blinking on the activity light. how long does initializing typically take before i see the redundancy notice with time remaining for that disk? thanks for any advice.
edit: just looked at the RAID settings tab and looks like initialization will take about 9 hours. :roll: Doh!
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mdgm et al
thanks for all the help getting my NV+ up to speed. All is redundant and synced with 5.4TBs of space!
my last samsung drive i just swapped in is showing LP Stat Events of 1734. is that normal? and what the heck does that indicate? all the other drives are 0 or single digits. curious. thanks again!!
Re: Spinpoint F4 HD204UI 2TB 5400 RPM working good so far
Add another successful installation datapoint for this drive. 5.4TB working fine sofar. Copying data back onto the NAS now (zzzzzzzzzzzz)
I went through the steps backup, reset, etc, and converted 4x500GB to 4x2TB with new block size. Best thing is that these drives are cool running. I recall my older seagates were 114F and these are 82 to 87F (and I've been writing continually for the last 6 hours).
