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Re: Upgrade readynas 104

Grimleiv
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Upgrade readynas 104

I have a readynas 104 with 2x10TB and 2x3TB, upgrading the 3TB to 16TB. 

Can i just remove one 3TB replace with a 16TB wile pwr on.. Wait for resync. When done same with nest?

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StephenB
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Re: Upgrade readynas 104


@Grimleiv wrote:

I have a readynas 104 with 2x10TB and 2x3TB, upgrading the 3TB to 16TB. 

Can i just remove one 3TB replace with a 16TB wile pwr on.. Wait for resync. When done same with rest?


Yes, that will work.  Assuming you are using X-RAID, then 2x10TB+2x16TB will give you 36 TB of storage (reported as ~32.75 TiB by the web UI).  The resync will take a while, and the second resync will take longer quite a bit longer than the first.

 

Netgear recommends making sure you have an up-to-date backup before manipulating the disks (and FWIW, I agree with them on this).  There is no RAID redundancy during the resync, so if one of the original disks fails during the process you will lose your data.

 

I also recommend testing the new disks in a Windows PC before putting them into the NAS.  I always run the long non-destructive test, and follow that up with a full erase test.  I have had some new drives pass one of these tests, but fail the other.

 

FWIW, the first resync will require 33 TB of disk I/O, the second will need 52 TB, so 85 TB in total.  Doing a factory default with 2x10TB+2x16TB disks in place would require only 52 TB of disk I/O to create the volume, plus the I/O needed to restore the data from backup.  So the factory default would be faster then one-by-one replacement (though it would require more manual steps).

 

 

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StephenB
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Re: Upgrade readynas 104


@Grimleiv wrote:

I have a readynas 104 with 2x10TB and 2x3TB, upgrading the 3TB to 16TB. 

Can i just remove one 3TB replace with a 16TB wile pwr on.. Wait for resync. When done same with rest?


Yes, that will work.  Assuming you are using X-RAID, then 2x10TB+2x16TB will give you 36 TB of storage (reported as ~32.75 TiB by the web UI).  The resync will take a while, and the second resync will take longer quite a bit longer than the first.

 

Netgear recommends making sure you have an up-to-date backup before manipulating the disks (and FWIW, I agree with them on this).  There is no RAID redundancy during the resync, so if one of the original disks fails during the process you will lose your data.

 

I also recommend testing the new disks in a Windows PC before putting them into the NAS.  I always run the long non-destructive test, and follow that up with a full erase test.  I have had some new drives pass one of these tests, but fail the other.

 

FWIW, the first resync will require 33 TB of disk I/O, the second will need 52 TB, so 85 TB in total.  Doing a factory default with 2x10TB+2x16TB disks in place would require only 52 TB of disk I/O to create the volume, plus the I/O needed to restore the data from backup.  So the factory default would be faster then one-by-one replacement (though it would require more manual steps).

 

 

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Sandshark
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Re: Upgrade readynas 104

Note that your NAS is going to take at least 2 sync's for the first drive and three for the second.  I say "at least" because it could be more if you originally started with some drives even smaller.  The NAS will report in the log that the sync is complete, but it's not.  Only the first one is.  Make sure all sync activity is complete before you replace the second drive.

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Grimleiv
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Started on first drive, one hour in it says 71% done(up from 70%), remaining time swap between 58 and 80 hours every now and then. So all looks good 🙂

 

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Grimleiv
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Re: Upgrade readynas 104

Backup.. Remember back when i used WD disks.. Always when swapping disk to upgrade.. some of the other drives died in process, so had start all over.. But since i have online backup, all was ok.

 

Since i started using Seagate Wolf disk.. haven't lost one. Seems like the quality and price are both better 🙂

 

Yesterday i swapped last 3TB for the 16TB. Takes time for sure, but all looks good 👌

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Grimleiv
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Ops, got error.. but rebooted system. and it seems to continue. Hope i dont have to replace disk.. Will ake a couple of weeks.. Log:

Feb 06, 2024 00:45:34
 
Volume: Resyncing started for Volume data.
Feb 06, 2024 00:45:10
 
System: Alert message failed to send.
Feb 06, 2024 00:45:14
 
System: ReadyNASOS background service started.
Feb 06, 2024 00:45:10
 
Volume: Volume data is Degraded.
Feb 06, 2024 00:41:16
 
System: The system is rebooting.
Feb 05, 2024 15:23:48
 
Disk: Disk in channel 4 (Internal) changed state from RESYNC to FAILED.
Feb 05, 2024 15:23:46
 
Volume: The resync operation finished on volume data. However, the volume is still degraded.
Feb 05, 2024 01:00:03
 
Volume: Volume data is Degraded.
Feb 04, 2024 23:01:00
 
Volume: Resyncing started for Volume data.
Feb 04, 2024 23:00:46
 
System: Alert message failed to send.
Feb 04, 2024 23:00:50
 
System: ReadyNASOS background service started.
Feb 04, 2024 23:00:46
 
Volume: Volume data is Degraded.
Feb 04, 2024 23:00:40
 
System: ReadyNASOS service or process was restarted.
Feb 04, 2024 17:13:47
 
Volume: Resyncing started for Volume data.
Feb 04, 2024 17:13:37
 
Disk: Disk Model:ST16000NE000-2RW103 Serial:ZL28Y35F was added to Channel 4 of the head unit.
Feb 04, 2024 17:12:03
 
Volume: Volume data health changed from Redundant to Degraded.
Feb 04, 2024 17:12:01
 
Disk: Disk Model:ST3000DM001-1ER166 Serial:Z5034R49 was removed from Channel 4 of the head unit.
Feb 04, 2024 05:39:23
 
Volume: Volume data is resynced.
Feb 03, 2024 01:00:16
 
System: Download firmware version () failed.
Feb 01, 2024 05:40:10
 
Volume: Volume data health changed from Degraded to Redundant.
Feb 01, 2024 01:00:24
 
Volume: Volume data is Degraded.
Jan 31, 2024 01:00:54
 
Volume: Volume data is Degraded.
Jan 30, 2024 01:00:56
 
Volume: Volume data is Degraded.
Jan 29, 2024 12:56:43
 
Volume: Volume data is Degraded.
Jan 29, 2024 12:56:19
 
System: Alert message failed to send.
Jan 29, 2024 12:56:23
 
System: ReadyNASOS background service started.
Jan 29, 2024 12:56:20
 
Volume: Resyncing started for Volume data.
Jan 29, 2024 12:56:19
 
Volume: Less than 5% of volume data's capacity is free. data's performance is degraded and you risk running out of usable space. To improve performance and stability, you must add capacity or make free space.
Jan 29, 2024 12:56:15
 
System: ReadyNASOS service or process was restarted.
Jan 29, 2024 12:14:36
 
Volume: Resyncing started for Volume data.
Jan 29, 2024 12:14:23
 
Disk: Disk Model:ST16000NE000-2RW103 Serial:ZL24PVVV was added to Channel 3 of the head unit.
Jan 29, 2024 12:10:28
 
Volume: Volume data health changed from Redundant to Degraded.
Jan 29, 2024 12:10:19
 
Disk: Disk Model:ST3000DM001-1ER166 Serial:Z5032SMR was removed from Channel 3 of the head unit.
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