I am having an issue getting this working. I have installed CrashPlan on the NAS and followed the instructions.
The only way I can get the machines to backup to the NAS however is to issue the command on the NAS: ulimit -n 8192 and then /etc/init.d/crashplan restart
I have tried setting this as a default in the /etc/sysctl.conf I have also tried setting the noffile limts in the /etc/security/limits.conf
Whenever I restart the NAS however the only way I can get the backup to start running is to run /etc/init.d/crashplan restart
Any idea what I can do to fix this?
Regards
Do you have a file named S99crashplan in /etc/rc2.d
:~# apt-get install sun-java6-jre Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies: apt-utils: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 libapache-mod-php5: Depends: php5-common (= 5.2.0-8+etch13) but 5.2.0+dfsg-8+etch16 is to be installed libgd2-noxpm: Conflicts: libgd2-xpm but 2.0.33-5.2etch2 is to be installed libgd2-xpm: Conflicts: libgd2-noxpm but 2.0.36~rc1~dfsg-5.1 is to be installed libltdl3-dev: Depends: libltdl3 (= 1.5.22-4+etch1) but 1.5.22-4 is to be installed php5-mcrypt: Depends: php5-common (= 5.2.0-8+etch13) but 5.2.0+dfsg-8+etch16 is to be installed sun-java6-jre: Depends: java-common (>= 0.24) but it is not going to be installed Depends: sun-java6-bin (= 6-07-3~bpo40+1) but it is not going to be installed or ia32-sun-java6-bin (= 6-07-3~bpo40+1) but it is not installable E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). :~#
and the dependencies are going further than this
-> sun-java6-bin: Depends: unixodbc but it is not going to be installed -> unixodbc requires odbc etc etc
Its not as hard as the number of posts make you think. You do need to be careful with the linux commands, esp. if you are not a linux expert.
If you don't know vi, you can use notepad++ (free download) to edit the linux configuration files. Just copy the files to the C volume somewhere, edit them, and then copy them back.
Once installed, how do I start or stop it from running? And how do I uninstall the software if I have problems with the ReadyNAS hardware before contacting NetGear?
after "apt-get install sun-java6-jre" I get an error with the dependency tree. sun-java6-jre: Depends java-common (>=0.24) but 0.22 is to be installed Depends: sun-java6-bin (=6-07-3~bpo40+1) but it is not installable E: Broken packages
what do I have to do now? (RND 2000)
NVM, I got my mistake, this is for a Pro, but I´m just on a duo... maybe someone can help me anyways! 🙂
**please do not use this as the way the client 'should' be updated, it's purely a suggestion & how it worked for me**
InterClaw wrote:
How do you go about updating CrashPlan to a newer version? I'm running 3.4.1 now and it seems the latest version is 3.5.2.
Also, how do you update Java?
I'm a Linux novice btw. 🙂 Thanks in advance!
Here's how I updated mine, from 3.4.1->3.5.2, This is purely for info as I'm unsure what I'm doing! Which is pretty dangerous when your data could be at risk...!!! After attempting to run the uninstall scrips as recommended on Crashplans website, I kept on receiving error messages stating it was already installed when I tried to instal the new version.
after reading up on the internet, I deleted the directory ' /var/lib/crashplan ' which still had files in it then I was then able to install the new version. All been working fine now for over a week. **read the article though, as it warns that crashplan keeps some information in this folder relating to the computer it's install on**
PS-thanks to the original posters for the step-by-step guide for the actual installation, it's greatly appreciated. PPS-I have no idea how to update java, I've found various guides but I've been unsuccessful so far on my NVX, as i could not afford to brick my Ultra.
Interesting. When you started up the new version of CrashPlan had you lost your settings? Your/friends' inbound computers? If so, after re-inviting them could you reuse the backup data?
Interesting. When you started up the new version of CrashPlan had you lost your settings? Your/friends' inbound computers? If so, after re-inviting them could you reuse the backup data?
Although I cannot answer your question directly see below, as my set-up is far less complicated, as I back directly to Crashplan, no additional complication of friends machines. + I'm unsure of the full behaviours of crashplans adoption process if you have deleted files etc...
I've just completed the following; Deleted /var/lib/crashplan & and the installation crashplan directory (purely out of personal choice; to ensure I've got the correct dir, I use rm & the dirname... then once I receive the error it's a directory etc, I change to use the command, rm -rf ....)
The results, After installing the latest client on my ultra, when I opened crashplan, I had to ADOPT the previous machine, eg my readynas ultra. That was certainly different to the last time, as I'm sure it just worked? It's currently performing a block level sync, when it's finished - I'll let you know if it has removed any deleted files.
I'll let you know if it has removed any deleted files.
I don't think we're talking about the same thing here, but as you said we're not using it the same way. 🙂 Thanks for letting me know how it goes either way though!
CrashPlan has just finished the block level sync to confirm the files are inplace on their cloud server, along with files that were orphaned. Basically, on my Ultra theres a folder I put files that I no longer need as the originals on dvd's etc. They are deleted from the nas once they have been backed-up to the crashplan cloud server. They stay available to restore - as crashplan do not delete files unless you set your preferences to.
The adoption process is documented on crashplan and has to be done a certain way, or you have to start the backups from scratch. Hence I needed to test this scenario before i committed loads of data that will take an age to upload over the internet. Unfortunately, I cannot state what will happen under your set-up? I hope someone does chip in with sufficent experience & linuxskills informingus how to upgrade the client 🙂
personally, I just need to sort out if/howto update java? I took a link you posted on that, it looked promising, but way outside my comfort zone as i'm a linux newbie as well.
I wouldn't recommend just relying on CrashPlan Central for your one copy of your files, but that just me I guess. 🙂
Anyway...
I'm not concerned about deleted versions of files on CrashPlan Central etc. CrashPlan Central is not my primary backup destination in my setup you see - my NAS is. CrashPlan Central is the backup of the backup really. Let me explain...
My setup is that have have a number of computers, both my own and family members', using free CrashPlan to back up to my NAS. Then the NAS backs up its own files (including those computer backups actually) to CrashPlan Central.
The benefits of this setup are: + Speedy backups to the NAS instead of CrashPlan Central + Just one license needed (on the NAS) + 3 copies of client computer data (just 2 for NAS only data though)
I was wondering if when you removed that folder (/var/lib/crashplan) you would also lose the connection with the client machines or if they would just be able to automagically continue backing up to you. But it doesn't matter that much. Not too much of a hassle to set it up again (total of 5 computers). They should at least be able to recognize their data on the NAS properly and not having to start from scratch since the client computers don't change their GUID.
So even when you removed /var/lib/crashplan your NAS retained its GUID and didn't have to upload everything again to CrashPlan Central? CrashPlan automatically asked if you wanted to "adopt" the previous GUID? Was it during the installation process or when you connected the frontend to the headless install later? Do you have a link to the documentation on this? Was it this?
I wouldn't recommend just relying on CrashPlan Central for your one copy of your files, but that just me I guess. 🙂
Not just you. I think even Crashplan suggests using multiple sites (for instance their "friend backup").
I've had good luck with Crashplan (I've been running it for about a year not). But I wouldn't rely exclusively on cloud backup from any provider. Personally I think there will be a shakeout at some point in the market, and it isn't clear to me what companies will survive it. Also, there are potentially glitches in these services.
So my primary backup for my NAS is my older 2 ReadyNAS. I am using Crashplan for disaster recovery.
I wouldn't recommend just relying on CrashPlan Central for your one copy of your files, but that just me I guess. 🙂
So even when you removed /var/lib/crashplan your NAS retained its GUID and didn't have to upload everything again to CrashPlan Central? CrashPlan automatically asked if you wanted to "adopt" the previous GUID? Was it during the installation process or when you connected the frontend to the headless install later? Do you have a link to the documentation on this? Was it this?
from my experience after deleting that dir i was able to install crashplan over the existing install in my last example i did go one step further and also deleted where the program was installed - just so i was confident on the behaviour if i had to do this at a later stage. installation on the headless server was the same process per the sep-by-step guide it was indeed when i connected from a desktop to the headless nas, it asked if i was an existing user/password etc, that's when it prompted if i wanted to adopt the a previous 'computer' from a list, so it must pick up to what you refer to as the guid as part of this adoption process. It then showed me the set-up I had previously configured + i did not have to reinstall all over again to crashplan (as a block level sync was performed) all files where there 😄
(edit -i'm unsure how it handles scenarios such as yours which include local computer backups)
ps- thanks for sharing your setup, very nice. It's got me thinking of doing something similar as i'm really impressed with CrashPlan working on the nas in first place. pps - I also agree with you both about not relying on cloud service as a single backup, and the follow up thoughts if will be a shake-out of the number of suppliers in the near future.
pps- ***if there is a proper way to upgrade the client +if java needs to be updated at a later stage? I'd appreciate if someone could chip in***
I have a small question. Crashplan is now linked to my readynas. I can choose any directory on my nas to backup to CrashPlan. But is it possible to choose a directory on my laptop? Or would i need the CrashPlan Family for this?
Otherwise an option would be to backup the TimeMachine location to CrashPlan. Anyone doing this?
Thanks for this. I guess whenever you use your account when installing on a new machine (or reinstall) you get the question "is this really new or is it one of these old ones you've recently used?", i.e. adopt or not.
Thanks for this. I guess whenever you use your account when installing on a new machine (or reinstall) you get the question "is this really new or is it one of these old ones you've recently used?", i.e. adopt or not.
I suppose it is, there are subtle differences on your set-up as your using local clients and using the free version etc, (I admit I'm still on a trial version and only using their cloud service)
Here's some additional info on the behaviour of the local desktop program once everything was reinstalled on the NAS etc. Originally when I deleted the crashplan folder and the additional directory on the NAS and tried to access crashplan from my pc which already had the client installed - it did force me log on & make me go through the adoption process.
But, to test further: I've just uninstalled the windows desktop client (incl the crashplan folder under program files) and it opened crashplan straightaway and did not ask for my details, it automatically stated 'Adoption Complete!' I accept there could have been a setting or so lingering in the registry. edit - (also to note I changed the service port setting in the ui.properties folder)
OK, I finally caved and went ahead with updating both Java and CrashPlan. I had a golden opportunity to test it out since I still have my old NAS around, now filled to the brim (96% full), as a backup in case anything and everything went wrong on the Pro 6.
For me things went exceptionally well, so therefore I thought I'd share my experiences and how I did it here in this thread. So if you followed this thread originally when you installed CrashPlan and if you have a setup similar to mine then here's how you can update. Of course, I'm not guaranteeing you won't run into problems. Bear in mind I'm a Linux novice and all that.
1. Stop the CrashPlan engine - Go into /usr/local/crashplan/bin and run "./CrashPlanEngine stop"
3. Uninstall old CrashPlan version - Go into /root/CrashPlan-install and run "./uninstall.sh -i /usr/local/crashplan". It says something about you losing all settings, but not backups. Don't worry, read on...
4. Update Java - Here's where I made things REALLY easy for myself by following this procedure I found before: http://minimserver.com/ejre-installer.html. I'm not gonna reiterate everything because it's well written there. - Just use the links provided on that site to get the latest Java package intended for this type of system, for me it was "ejre-7u10-fcs-b18-linux-i586-headless-28_nov_2012.tar.gz", i.e. Java 7 Update 10 was the latest version. I think it's 32-bit (I think that's all we get as embedded). - Place it in /c/backup. - Get the add-on and just install it via FrontView. - Check the Java version by running "java -version". Mine returns:
java version "1.7.0_10" Java(TM) SE Embedded Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_10-b18, headless) Java HotSpot(TM) Embedded Client VM (build 23.6-b04, mixed mode)
5. Install new CrashPlan version - Run "./install.sh" and install like you did before.
6. Connect to the headless install - All I needed to do now was select "existing user" and log in. CrashPlan had retained _all_ my settings, including the NAS's own GUID, the NAS's backup code, backup settings, inbound client computers, and the license key. I attribute this to not having to delete the /var/lib/crashplan folder. Towards CrashPlan Central it automatically started "Synchronizing block information", which didn't take that long and after that was done everything was back to normal. - Double-click the CrashPlan logo to open the console and enter "version" to verify the engine is running version 3.5.2.
Good luck!
Note: Between steps 4 and 5 I actually tried uninstalling the EJRE add-on it to see what would happen. You get a question if you want to keep your settings or not. I selected not to, trying to restore to how it was before. I reran "java -version", but didn't get anything. It might be that this way of installing Java breaks the old way that Java 6 was installed, so keep this in mind. I think you're supposed to be able to have multiple versions installed and switch between them though, but how I sure couldn't tell you. I don't care though since I'd much more prefer to just have one version even if there might be old crap left from the Java 6 install from before.
