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Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
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12:23 PM
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Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
Are you running 6.0.8? Netgear changed some stuff around and you need to patch readynasd to make it work correctly.
To start with is this file present on your machine:
/run/readynasd/stats/temperature_int_deg.rrd ?
If it is then try entering this command about 10-15 times over a couple of minutes and see what happens in the graph:
rrdtool update /run/readynasd/stats/temperature_int_deg.rrd N:25:50
To start with is this file present on your machine:
/run/readynasd/stats/temperature_int_deg.rrd ?
If it is then try entering this command about 10-15 times over a couple of minutes and see what happens in the graph:
rrdtool update /run/readynasd/stats/temperature_int_deg.rrd N:25:50
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Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
Iridabike wrote: Are you running 6.0.8? Netgear changed some stuff around and you need to patch readynasd to make it work correctly.
YES. EDIT: When you say "patch readynasd" could you be more specific? Details please, THANK YOU!
Iridabike wrote: To start with is this file present on your machine:
/run/readynasd/stats/temperature_int_deg.rrd ?
YES
Iridabike wrote: If it is then try entering this command about 10-15 times over a couple of minutes and see what happens in the graph:
rrdtool update /run/readynasd/stats/temperature_int_deg.rrd N:25:50
Trying that now. I will report back in 30 minutes. . .
EDIT: YES! I'm seeing stuff on the graph now. So what must I do to automate this process? I assume the crontab entry is supposed to do that. . .
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Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
You should see some data in the graph although I suspect it will not be a two straight lines at 25 and 50 as readynasd is also writing to the file every minute with some false temperatures.
If you are now seeing some data in the graph then the problem may be your script. Try running your script from the command line a few times and check that it logs something.
When you have it logging something by itself you will need to fix the problem readynasd corrupting your data. I have patched the readynasd elf to update a copy of the file rather than corrupt the data. To do this you need a hex editor to mod readynasd. Look for this text in the file:
/usr/bin/rrdtool update /run/readynasd/stats/temperature_int_deg.rrd N:%lld:%lld
.
and change it to something like:
/usr/bin/rrdtool update /run/readynasd/stats/temperature_int_deg.bak N:%lld:%lld
Note there are similar lines in the file but only one matches exactly
At startup I use another script to copy the .rrd to .bak just to give readynasd something to write to. It needs to be done at every startup as the files in this folder are deleted.
You may want to backup your readynasd first just incase something goes wrong. Also please be aware this could mess things up if you get things wrong so please only do this if you are confident and are happy to take the risk.
If you are now seeing some data in the graph then the problem may be your script. Try running your script from the command line a few times and check that it logs something.
When you have it logging something by itself you will need to fix the problem readynasd corrupting your data. I have patched the readynasd elf to update a copy of the file rather than corrupt the data. To do this you need a hex editor to mod readynasd. Look for this text in the file:
/usr/bin/rrdtool update /run/readynasd/stats/temperature_int_deg.rrd N:%lld:%lld
.
and change it to something like:
/usr/bin/rrdtool update /run/readynasd/stats/temperature_int_deg.bak N:%lld:%lld
Note there are similar lines in the file but only one matches exactly
At startup I use another script to copy the .rrd to .bak just to give readynasd something to write to. It needs to be done at every startup as the files in this folder are deleted.
You may want to backup your readynasd first just incase something goes wrong. Also please be aware this could mess things up if you get things wrong so please only do this if you are confident and are happy to take the risk.
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Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
Iridabike wrote: You should see some data in the graph although I suspect it will not be a two straight lines at 25 and 50 as readynasd is also writing to the file every minute with some false temperatures.
You are correct sir.
Iridabike wrote: If you are now seeing some data in the graph then the problem may be your script
I have no doubt. . . :cry:
Iridabike wrote: To do this you need a hex editor to mod readynasd. Look for this text in the file:
Yeah, see my post above RE: "Linux Idiot" I think I should abandon this effort right here. I've done the hex editing thing in the past, sometimes it goes okay, sometimes not so much.
Iridabike wrote: Also please be aware this could mess things up if you get things wrong so please only do this if you are confident and are happy to take the risk.
Yeah, not so much. . . Even though I would love to get the temperature graph working, it's not important enough to risk screwing things up entirely. I appreciate your and fastfwd's help on this, but I have to be realistic about my limitations in this area. I'm primarily a WinDoze guy, I just tinker with Linux stuff from time to time for fun and education.
Perhaps one day down the road, some ambitious person will compile a preconfigured patch or binary package that fixes some of these non-functional aspects of running OS6 on legacy ReadyNAS devices. . . :naskiller:
Thanks again for trying to lend a hand!
P.S: When you said "Try running your script from the command line a few times and check that it logs something." For educational purposes could you give me an example of what the proper syntax for such a command would be?
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Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
To run your script:
1) cd to the directory where your script lives
2) enter the name of your script preceded by ./
Eg.
./myscript
This can be handy when debugging a script as errors are returned on screen.
1) cd to the directory where your script lives
2) enter the name of your script preceded by ./
Eg.
./myscript
This can be handy when debugging a script as errors are returned on screen.
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Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
Iridabike wrote: To run your script:
1) cd to the directory where your script lives
2) enter the name of your script preceded by ./
Eg.
./myscript
This can be handy when debugging a script as errors are returned on screen.
Excellent! Thank you so much for holding the hand of this Linux neophyte. . . :oops:
One more question: What do you know about this?
fastfwd wrote:
ATCIS wrote: find / -name syslog --> Yields nothing 😞 It would appear that syslog is M.I.A.
Check the process list:ps -A | grep syslogd
That should return something like "1234 ? 00:00:01 syslogd". If it returns nothing at all, syslogd isn't even running.
Tracking down WHY it isn't running might be an interesting exercise. Could be something as simple as an old lockfile preventing it from starting (to check, look in /var/run for a file called "syslogd.pid"; if you see it there even though syslogd isn't running, delete it and restart).
Any chance you could shed some light on how to watch the ReadyNAS OS6 syslog?
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Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
Iridabike wrote: To run your script:
1) cd to the directory where your script lives
2) enter the name of your script preceded by ./
With your guidance I think I just figured out what is wrong with my script. See below:
root@ReadyNAS-U4:/usr/local/etc/scripts# ./UpdateTempGraph.cron
-bash: ./UpdateTempGraph.cron: Permission denied
I'm guessing I should have made the script executable. . . Correct?
Would the command
#chmod +x /usr/local/etc/scripts/UpdateTempGraph.cronbe sufficient?
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Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
If you type these commands :
1) cd /
2) find . | grep syslog
It should search all files for anything with syslog in the name or path
ps -A will list all processes running -try it
ps -A | grep syslogd will list any processes with syslogd in them. I am not sure if os6 has this and can't check right now.
1) cd /
2) find . | grep syslog
It should search all files for anything with syslog in the name or path
ps -A will list all processes running -try it
ps -A | grep syslogd will list any processes with syslogd in them. I am not sure if os6 has this and can't check right now.
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Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
Yes your script must have execute rights
Chmod 777 yourscriptname
Should sort it.
Chmod 777 yourscriptname
Should sort it.
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03:28 PM
Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
Iridabike wrote: 2) find . | grep syslog
Results in:
root@ReadyNAS-U4:/# find . | grep syslog
./lib/systemd/system/syslog.target
./lib/systemd/system/syslog.socket
./usr/share/perl/5.14.2/syslog.pl
./usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc/memcpy-syslog-preload.so
./usr/lib/perl/5.14.2/sys/syslog.ph
./usr/lib/perl/5.14.2/bits/syslog.ph
./usr/lib/perl/5.14.2/bits/syslog-path.ph
./usr/lib/perl/5.14.2/bits/syslog-ldbl.ph
./usr/lib/perl/5.14.2/syslog.ph
Iridabike wrote: ps -A will list all processes running -try it
Results in:
root@ReadyNAS-U4:/# ps -A
PID TTY TIME CMD
1 ? 00:00:01 systemd
2 ? 00:00:00 kthreadd
3 ? 00:00:00 ksoftirqd/0
4 ? 00:00:02 kworker/0:0
6 ? 00:00:00 migration/0
7 ? 00:00:00 watchdog/0
8 ? 00:00:00 migration/1
10 ? 00:00:00 ksoftirqd/1
11 ? 00:00:02 kworker/0:1
12 ? 00:00:00 watchdog/1
13 ? 00:00:00 khelper
211 ? 00:00:00 sync_supers
213 ? 00:00:00 bdi-default
215 ? 00:00:00 kblockd
320 ? 00:00:00 khubd
327 ? 00:00:00 md
427 ? 00:00:00 rpciod
428 ? 00:00:02 kworker/1:1
449 ? 00:00:00 khungtaskd
454 ? 00:00:00 kswapd0
519 ? 00:00:00 fsnotify_mark
537 ? 00:00:00 nfsiod
557 ? 00:00:00 xfs_mru_cache
559 ? 00:00:00 xfslogd
560 ? 00:00:00 xfsdatad
561 ? 00:00:00 xfsconvertd
570 ? 00:00:00 crypto
585 ? 00:00:00 kthrotld
661 ? 00:00:00 scsi_eh_0
664 ? 00:00:00 scsi_eh_1
667 ? 00:00:00 scsi_eh_2
670 ? 00:00:00 scsi_eh_3
673 ? 00:00:00 scsi_eh_4
676 ? 00:00:00 scsi_eh_5
680 ? 00:00:04 kworker/u:3
682 ? 00:00:00 kworker/u:5
685 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-endio-met
686 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-worker-2
688 ? 00:00:00 target_completi
689 ? 00:00:00 LIO_rd_mcp
690 ? 00:00:00 iscsi_ttx
691 ? 00:00:00 iscsi_trx
692 ? 00:00:00 iscsi_ttx
693 ? 00:00:00 iscsi_trx
694 ? 00:00:00 iscsi_ttx
695 ? 00:00:00 iscsi_trx
696 ? 00:00:00 iscsi_ttx
697 ? 00:00:00 iscsi_trx
797 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-endio-met
844 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-endio-wri
936 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-endio-met
985 ? 00:00:19 md0_raid1
995 ? 00:00:01 md1_raid6
1020 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-genwork-1
1021 ? 00:00:03 btrfs-submit-1
1022 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-delalloc-
1023 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-fixup-1
1028 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-freespace
1029 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-delayed-m
1030 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-cache-1
1031 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-readahead
1032 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-cleaner
1033 ? 00:00:05 btrfs-transacti
1050 ? 00:00:00 sleep
1051 pts/0 00:00:00 ps
1065 ? 00:00:02 kworker/1:2
1079 ? 00:00:03 systemd-journal
1084 ? 00:00:00 udevd
1110 ? 00:00:16 md127_raid5
1133 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-genwork-1
1134 ? 00:00:02 btrfs-submit-1
1135 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-delalloc-
1136 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-fixup-1
1137 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-endio-1
1140 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-endio-wri
1141 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-freespace
1142 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-delayed-m
1143 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-cache-1
1144 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-readahead
1744 ? 00:00:00 flush-btrfs-1
1747 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-endio-met
1748 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-cleaner
1749 ? 00:00:14 btrfs-transacti
1758 ? 00:00:05 avahi-daemon
1763 ? 00:00:00 mdadm
1767 ? 00:00:01 connmand
1768 ? 00:00:00 bond0
1808 ? 00:00:00 rsync
1829 ? 00:00:00 acpid
1848 ? 00:00:00 raidard
1850 ? 00:00:00 udevd
1851 ? 00:00:00 udevd
1854 ? 00:00:00 cron
1857 ? 00:00:00 leafp2p
1859 ? 00:00:00 sshd
1871 ? 00:00:00 avahi-daemon
1872 ? 00:00:00 systemd-logind
1878 ? 00:00:00 dbus-daemon
1905 tty1 00:00:00 agetty
1908 ttyS0 00:00:00 agetty
1982 ? 00:00:29 leafp2p
1994 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-endio-met
2003 ? 00:00:17 fancontrol
2166 ? 00:00:02 nmbd
2168 ? 00:00:04 winbindd
2170 ? 00:00:01 smbd
2171 ? 00:00:00 winbindd
2172 ? 00:00:00 winbindd
2173 ? 00:00:01 winbindd
2174 ? 00:00:00 winbindd
2175 ? 00:00:00 smbd
2176 ? 00:00:01 apache2
2177 ? 00:00:01 apache2
2178 ? 00:00:01 apache2
2179 ? 00:00:00 apache2
2180 ? 00:00:00 apache2
2182 ? 00:07:44 readynasd
2186 ? 00:01:50 qbittorrent-nox
2282 ? 00:01:07 usbhid-ups
2284 ? 00:00:02 upsd
2288 ? 00:00:00 upsmon
2289 ? 00:00:01 upsmon
2381 ? 00:00:00 fvbackup-q
2387 ? 00:00:00 minissdpd
2388 ? 00:00:00 upnphttpd
2395 ? 00:00:00 rcbrokerd
4400 ? 00:00:00 apache2
4507 ? 00:00:00 apache2
6006 ? 00:00:00 flush-btrfs-2
10321 ? 00:00:02 btrfs-worker-2
11370 ? 00:00:00 apache2
11454 ? 00:00:00 apache2
14476 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-worker-3
19608 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-endio-met
23922 ? 00:00:00 rcbrokerd
24327 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-endio-met
25473 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-endio-wri
28336 ? 00:00:00 apache2
28339 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-endio-2
28367 ? 00:00:00 apache2
29043 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-worker-4
30098 ? 00:00:00 sshd
30244 pts/0 00:00:00 bash
30554 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-endio-met
32149 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-endio-met
32631 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-endio-wri
32632 ? 00:00:00 btrfs-endio-wri
Iridabike wrote: ps -A | grep syslogd
Results in --> Absolutely nothing. . . :-?
Is it just me, or does anyone else think that is bizarre?
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03:48 PM
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Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
In case anyone cares. . . I finally got the graph working!
As it turns out it was likely a permissions problem ALL ALONG :oops:
![](http://i.imgur.com/rOwe5B5.png)
Still something not quite right though. I just checked the ambient room temperature which is approximately 82 degrees F. How can the CPU temperature be 79 degrees F? As I watch the graph over time both temperatures are dropping slightly every minute. The System temperature seems reasonable. It is currently 97 degrees F. I'll keep an eye on things for a while and report back later. . .
As it turns out it was likely a permissions problem ALL ALONG :oops:
![](http://i.imgur.com/rOwe5B5.png)
Still something not quite right though. I just checked the ambient room temperature which is approximately 82 degrees F. How can the CPU temperature be 79 degrees F? As I watch the graph over time both temperatures are dropping slightly every minute. The System temperature seems reasonable. It is currently 97 degrees F. I'll keep an eye on things for a while and report back later. . .
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06:50 PM
Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
So now that I have the temperature graph working (kind of), the next step is to work out a few details. So this is what the top of my Performance GUI looks like:
![](http://i.imgur.com/lGTiOxD.png)
and this is what the temperature graph looks like now:
![](http://i.imgur.com/mfo3fac.png)
So my questions are:
1.) As you can see from the upper screenshot, both fans indicate 5355 RPM's in spite of running through the "pwmconfig" instructions detailed previously in this thread. Can I assume that by running OS6 on legacy hardware that those numbers will never represent actual fan speeds?
2.) Based on what I saw during the pwmconfig process, is it safe to assume that the Ultra 4 has no CPU fan at all?
3.) Likewise, are the three graphical thermometers and their corresponding values also just static images and text? I ask because i have NEVER seen any of them change to any other value than what you see above.
4.) If number 3 above is true, why do you suppose that the CPU value is 5 degrees (F) higher than the other two?
Thoughts from the ReadyNAS community at large welcomed. . .
![](http://i.imgur.com/lGTiOxD.png)
and this is what the temperature graph looks like now:
![](http://i.imgur.com/mfo3fac.png)
So my questions are:
1.) As you can see from the upper screenshot, both fans indicate 5355 RPM's in spite of running through the "pwmconfig" instructions detailed previously in this thread. Can I assume that by running OS6 on legacy hardware that those numbers will never represent actual fan speeds?
2.) Based on what I saw during the pwmconfig process, is it safe to assume that the Ultra 4 has no CPU fan at all?
3.) Likewise, are the three graphical thermometers and their corresponding values also just static images and text? I ask because i have NEVER seen any of them change to any other value than what you see above.
4.) If number 3 above is true, why do you suppose that the CPU value is 5 degrees (F) higher than the other two?
Thoughts from the ReadyNAS community at large welcomed. . .
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09:19 PM
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09:19 PM
Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
The graph temps are wrong because readynasd is writing false info to the rrd file every minute as well as your script.
This is why it needs patching as described previously.
This is why it needs patching as described previously.
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11:38 PM
Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
Iridabike wrote: The graph temps are wrong because readynasd is writing false info to the rrd file every minute as well as your script.
This is why it needs patching as described previously.
Gotchya. . . Again, that task is above the effort I'm willing to go. I just finished turning my little old Ultra 4 into an eight Camera IP Surveillance Network Video Recorder without having to pay NTGR's exorbitant $400 licensing fee. :woot:
I think I'll just be happy with what I've got going on for now; and see if any creative and talented community members attempt to resolve some of these GUI shortfalls on legacy hardware sometime in the future. Thanks again for your help earlier!
Signing off for now. . .
Best wishes,
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05:03 AM
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05:03 AM
Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
Hi,
In my Pro 6 the temperature bars are decreasing as well. My box reads values from the file /run/readynasd/stats/temperature_int_deg.rrd abou 10 sec after the minute and then writes the new values to the file at about 56 sec. after the minute. It looks for me that the value read 10 sec after the minute references the minute before. So my quick fix is to make a copy of temperature_int_deg.rrd file modify the script provided by Iridabike so that it updates the copy and overwrites the file temperature_int_deg.rrd with the copy before 10 sec after the minute. So my script looks like:
#!/bin/sh
#######################################################
sleep 30
Coretemp="/sys/devices/platform/w83627ehf.2576/temp1_input"
Systemp="/sys/devices/platform/w83627ehf.2576/temp2_input"
Ct=`/bin/cat $Coretemp`
C=`/usr/bin/expr $Ct / 1000`
St=`/bin/cat $Systemp`
S=`/usr/bin/expr $St / 1000`
/usr/bin/rrdtool update /run/readynasd/stats/temperature_int_deg.rrd.custom N:$C:$S
sleep 30
cp -f /run/readynasd/stats/temperature_int_deg.rrd.custom /run/readynasd/stats/temperature_int_deg.rrd
It works for me just fine. I hope that helps.
P.S.
I'm still looking for a solution on updating the values under those nice temperature and fan animations 😄 .
In my Pro 6 the temperature bars are decreasing as well. My box reads values from the file /run/readynasd/stats/temperature_int_deg.rrd abou 10 sec after the minute and then writes the new values to the file at about 56 sec. after the minute. It looks for me that the value read 10 sec after the minute references the minute before. So my quick fix is to make a copy of temperature_int_deg.rrd file modify the script provided by Iridabike so that it updates the copy and overwrites the file temperature_int_deg.rrd with the copy before 10 sec after the minute. So my script looks like:
#!/bin/sh
#######################################################
sleep 30
Coretemp="/sys/devices/platform/w83627ehf.2576/temp1_input"
Systemp="/sys/devices/platform/w83627ehf.2576/temp2_input"
Ct=`/bin/cat $Coretemp`
C=`/usr/bin/expr $Ct / 1000`
St=`/bin/cat $Systemp`
S=`/usr/bin/expr $St / 1000`
/usr/bin/rrdtool update /run/readynasd/stats/temperature_int_deg.rrd.custom N:$C:$S
sleep 30
cp -f /run/readynasd/stats/temperature_int_deg.rrd.custom /run/readynasd/stats/temperature_int_deg.rrd
It works for me just fine. I hope that helps.
P.S.
I'm still looking for a solution on updating the values under those nice temperature and fan animations 😄 .
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06:02 AM
Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
xmansss wrote: It works for me just fine. I hope that helps.
Dear xmansss,
Thank you for sharing your idea. Perhaps I'll give that a try after I get some sleep :shhh:
xmansss wrote: P.S.
I'm still looking for a solution on updating the values under those nice temperature and fan animations .
Well, if you do happen to figure that out, please do come back and share how you did it!
Take care,
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02:43 AM
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02:43 AM
Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
note : Initially I ask this forum because I have looked few times and it always was half the speed between the 2 speed displayed.
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=71904&p=399532#p399532
This morning I spent more than one hour playing around and I now understand how it's "working" :
1) the langage used by Frontview is based on the langage used by the browser (for me it was a french Safari). Thanks to apple I changed the langage in 5 sec and reboot, so I confirm my that the text explained in Frontview under "system>language" is true : IT IS based on the browser's language.
And about the fan speed I noticed the same problem : the 2 readings where completely different, but not anymore with "half/double" relation.
2) I refreshed pages many times, recalibrated, etc and then I understood the pattern :
When connecting to the Frontview homepage the speed of the fan is read at this moment even i the mouse is not put on the green light to display the speed in the overlay menu. Then it's stored somehow. To refresh this reading I had to refresh completely the webpage (like F5)
3) the fan speed inside the frontview text page under the menu "Status>health" is read when the menu is clicked onto it.
4)Here is why the 2 speeds are different 90% of the time because they are not read at the same moment. And apparently the fan speed reading varies a lot for an unknown reason. I believe waiting for 10 sec helps displaying the real fan speed (to stabilized)
The solution to obtain the same speed is, when logged in frontview is to display very fast the menu "Status>health" (the refresh is like avery few seconds).
conclusion :
Sorry to have bothered you all, but now I am confident about the usual fan speed I am having, therefore I am ready 'upgrade' to R6 when I'll catch enough hard drive space to backup all files.
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=71904&p=399532#p399532
This morning I spent more than one hour playing around and I now understand how it's "working" :
1) the langage used by Frontview is based on the langage used by the browser (for me it was a french Safari). Thanks to apple I changed the langage in 5 sec and reboot, so I confirm my that the text explained in Frontview under "system>language" is true : IT IS based on the browser's language.
And about the fan speed I noticed the same problem : the 2 readings where completely different, but not anymore with "half/double" relation.
2) I refreshed pages many times, recalibrated, etc and then I understood the pattern :
When connecting to the Frontview homepage the speed of the fan is read at this moment even i the mouse is not put on the green light to display the speed in the overlay menu. Then it's stored somehow. To refresh this reading I had to refresh completely the webpage (like F5)
3) the fan speed inside the frontview text page under the menu "Status>health" is read when the menu is clicked onto it.
4)Here is why the 2 speeds are different 90% of the time because they are not read at the same moment. And apparently the fan speed reading varies a lot for an unknown reason. I believe waiting for 10 sec helps displaying the real fan speed (to stabilized)
The solution to obtain the same speed is, when logged in frontview is to display very fast the menu "Status>health" (the refresh is like avery few seconds).
conclusion :
Sorry to have bothered you all, but now I am confident about the usual fan speed I am having, therefore I am ready 'upgrade' to R6 when I'll catch enough hard drive space to backup all files.
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Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
Hi, I'd appreciate some help here. I have an Ultra 6 which is running 6.0.8
I've been through the fan control settings but the fan is still running at max speed.
I think the problem is that i'm getting null results for all the temp readings.
if i run the SENSORS command i get the following.
root@NASBACK6:~# sensors
coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 0: N/A (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1: N/A (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
it8721-isa-0a10
Adapter: ISA adapter
in0: +12.19 V (min = +11.86 V, max = +9.89 V) ALARM
in1: +5.02 V (min = +4.82 V, max = +5.12 V)
in2: +3.32 V (min = +4.97 V, max = +2.35 V) ALARM
in3: +0.00 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +0.00 V) ALARM
in4: +1.15 V (min = +2.83 V, max = +1.45 V) ALARM
in5: +1.79 V (min = +2.57 V, max = +2.89 V) ALARM
in6: -12.10 V (min = +6.37 V, max = +2.04 V) ALARM
in7: +3.29 V (min = +3.05 V, max = +1.32 V) ALARM
in8: +3.36 V
fan1: 0 RPM (min = 31 RPM) ALARM
fan2: 0 RPM (min = 12 RPM) ALARM
fan3: 2242 RPM (min = 28 RPM)
temp1: +0.0°C (low = -28.0°C, high = -11.0°C) ALARM sensor = thermistor
temp2: +0.0°C (low = +19.0°C, high = -75.0°C) ALARM sensor = thermal diode
temp3: +0.0°C (low = +84.0°C, high = +115.0°C) sensor = thermal diode
cpu0_vid: +2.050 V
The fan previously ran fine under 4.X.X.
Anyone have any ideas about what the problem here might be?
many thanks
Steve
I've been through the fan control settings but the fan is still running at max speed.
I think the problem is that i'm getting null results for all the temp readings.
if i run the SENSORS command i get the following.
root@NASBACK6:~# sensors
coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 0: N/A (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1: N/A (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
it8721-isa-0a10
Adapter: ISA adapter
in0: +12.19 V (min = +11.86 V, max = +9.89 V) ALARM
in1: +5.02 V (min = +4.82 V, max = +5.12 V)
in2: +3.32 V (min = +4.97 V, max = +2.35 V) ALARM
in3: +0.00 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +0.00 V) ALARM
in4: +1.15 V (min = +2.83 V, max = +1.45 V) ALARM
in5: +1.79 V (min = +2.57 V, max = +2.89 V) ALARM
in6: -12.10 V (min = +6.37 V, max = +2.04 V) ALARM
in7: +3.29 V (min = +3.05 V, max = +1.32 V) ALARM
in8: +3.36 V
fan1: 0 RPM (min = 31 RPM) ALARM
fan2: 0 RPM (min = 12 RPM) ALARM
fan3: 2242 RPM (min = 28 RPM)
temp1: +0.0°C (low = -28.0°C, high = -11.0°C) ALARM sensor = thermistor
temp2: +0.0°C (low = +19.0°C, high = -75.0°C) ALARM sensor = thermal diode
temp3: +0.0°C (low = +84.0°C, high = +115.0°C) sensor = thermal diode
cpu0_vid: +2.050 V
The fan previously ran fine under 4.X.X.
Anyone have any ideas about what the problem here might be?
many thanks
Steve
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10:32 PM
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10:32 PM
Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
Have you followed these steps with root user ?
1) install lm-sensors and fancontrol packages
2) create /etc/fancontrol file
2) restart fancontrol
May be you can try to remove and reinstall lm-sensors packages
1) install lm-sensors and fancontrol packages
2) create /etc/fancontrol file
2) restart fancontrol
May be you can try to remove and reinstall lm-sensors packages
apt-get remove lm-sensors fancontrol
apt-get install lm-sensors fancontrol
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Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
Thanks - have done this but still get exactly the same result.
Any further ideas much appreciated.....
thanks
Steve
Any further ideas much appreciated.....
thanks
Steve
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Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
hm, the coretemp.0 temp input files seem to represent temp multiplied by 1000 and pwmconfig recognises this fine. However, it87.2576 files have temp without multiplied by 1000, and pwmconfig sees it as 0. What to do?
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Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
I am having issues on my Pro6, I used one of the profiles here, and basically my fans keep powering up and down every few seconds. Doesn't happen in a cooler room, so I think I have my profile set incorrectly. The problem is I can't seem to find the accurate live temperatures from my device so I can change my thresholds, to stop the fans going on and off constantly. When I look under performance (firmware 6.0.8 and 6.1.1) the AUX, CPU and System are all steady at 40c, 43c and 40c respectively and NO information is available on the temperature graphcs. Is there a nice simple way I can log the true fan speeds and temperatures on my device for 5-10 minutes to work out what I need to do to fix the problem?
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03:15 AM
Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
Ok here is some info from an Ultra 4. Have only just set it up, so am not specifically recommending these settings, and it may depend on your personal trade-off between noise & temperature.
For what's it's worth, 6.1.1 on the Ultra 4 seems to adjust the fan speed about every 25 minutes, and the temperature graph has a very regular variation to it:
![](http://i.imgur.com/7teyUzx.png)
I'm guessing the fan speed is adjusted every ~25 minutes, as it's pretty close to 100 minutes between the peaks, and about 25 minutes between when it drops and when it starts to slowly rise again. Just a guess (could easily be 10 or 12.5 minutes).
First up, here's the output from "sensors":
The ReadyNAS front-end shows both CPU and Case temperature sensors, but I can only see the CPU temperature here. Not sure how to access the case temperature, but suspect that's not a big deal.
The Ultra 4 has only one PWM-controlled fan (CPU fan is fixed speed I think). Here's the output from pwmconfig detecting the hardware:
And here is pwmconfig characterising the chassis fan:
Further testing showed the fan started back up with a PWM value between 24 and 34, so 64 was chosen by pwmconfig as a safe value.
Finally, here is the /etc/fancontrol file generated by pwmconfig, just using the defaults, having selected the one appropriate pwm & temp sensor for the Ultra 4:
And to get the fan control up and running...
# sudo /etc/init.d/fancontrol start
Having run it for the time it's taken to write this post, I've learned:
For what's it's worth, 6.1.1 on the Ultra 4 seems to adjust the fan speed about every 25 minutes, and the temperature graph has a very regular variation to it:
![](http://i.imgur.com/7teyUzx.png)
I'm guessing the fan speed is adjusted every ~25 minutes, as it's pretty close to 100 minutes between the peaks, and about 25 minutes between when it drops and when it starts to slowly rise again. Just a guess (could easily be 10 or 12.5 minutes).
First up, here's the output from "sensors":
coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 0: +34.0°C (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
it8721-isa-0a10
Adapter: ISA adapter
in0: +0.00 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +0.00 V) ALARM
in1: +4.88 V (min = +0.56 V, max = +4.36 V) ALARM
in2: +0.00 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +0.00 V) ALARM
in3: +0.00 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +0.00 V)
in4: +3.30 V (min = +2.48 V, max = +0.06 V) ALARM
in5: +1.16 V (min = +1.18 V, max = +0.41 V) ALARM
in6: +12.18 V (min = +7.06 V, max = +1.67 V) ALARM
in7: +3.24 V (min = +3.84 V, max = +4.20 V) ALARM
in8: +3.22 V
fan1: 2481 RPM (min = 4017 RPM) ALARM
fan2: 0 RPM (min = 607 RPM) ALARM
temp1: +0.1°C (low = +120.0°C, high = +94.0°C) sensor = thermal diode
temp2: +0.0°C (low = -61.0°C, high = -127.0°C) ALARM sensor = thermal diode
temp3: -0.1°C (low = +32.0°C, high = -112.0°C) sensor = disabled
cpu0_vid: +2.050 V
The ReadyNAS front-end shows both CPU and Case temperature sensors, but I can only see the CPU temperature here. Not sure how to access the case temperature, but suspect that's not a big deal.
The Ultra 4 has only one PWM-controlled fan (CPU fan is fixed speed I think). Here's the output from pwmconfig detecting the hardware:
Found the following devices:
hwmon0/device is coretemp
hwmon1/device is it8721
Found the following PWM controls:
hwmon1/device/pwm1 current value: 96
hwmon1/device/pwm2 current value: 0
hwmon1/device/pwm3 current value: 255
And here is pwmconfig characterising the chassis fan:
PWM 255 FAN 3358
PWM 240 FAN 3358
PWM 225 FAN 3358
PWM 210 FAN 3341
PWM 195 FAN 3341
PWM 180 FAN 3308
PWM 165 FAN 3229
PWM 150 FAN 3125
PWM 135 FAN 2973
PWM 120 FAN 2812
PWM 105 FAN 2626
PWM 90 FAN 2410
PWM 75 FAN 2163
PWM 60 FAN 1880
PWM 45 FAN 1537
PWM 30 FAN 1130
PWM 28 FAN 1033
PWM 26 FAN 975
PWM 24 FAN 924
PWM 22 FAN 876
PWM 20 FAN 827
PWM 18 FAN 774
PWM 16 FAN 716
PWM 14 FAN 636
PWM 12 FAN 534
PWM 10 FAN 421
PWM 8 FAN 260
PWM 6 FAN 115
PWM 4 FAN 0
Fan Stopped at PWM = 4
Further testing showed the fan started back up with a PWM value between 24 and 34, so 64 was chosen by pwmconfig as a safe value.
Finally, here is the /etc/fancontrol file generated by pwmconfig, just using the defaults, having selected the one appropriate pwm & temp sensor for the Ultra 4:
# Configuration file generated by pwmconfig, changes will be lost
INTERVAL=10
DEVPATH=hwmon0=devices/platform/coretemp.0 hwmon1=devices/platform/it87.2576
DEVNAME=hwmon0=coretemp hwmon1=it8721
FCTEMPS=hwmon1/device/pwm1=hwmon0/device/temp2_input
FCFANS= hwmon1/device/pwm1=hwmon1/device/fan1_input
MINTEMP=hwmon1/device/pwm1=20
MAXTEMP=hwmon1/device/pwm1=60
MINSTART=hwmon1/device/pwm1=64
MINSTOP=hwmon1/device/pwm1=4
And to get the fan control up and running...
# sudo /etc/init.d/fancontrol start
Having run it for the time it's taken to write this post, I've learned:
- it seems to be updating more regularly (ie at the 10 second interval specified)
- so far CPU temp has risen from ~30 to ~34 with fan speed rising in line (around 2000 up to 2400)
- it looks like it's going to be a much steadier temperature (almost perfectly flat at 34º), but won't know for an hour or two i guess if its got any variation anymore
- I don't remember what my CPU/case temps were like before, but it's definitely noisier than before... so either I can set the MINTEMP higher (maybe 40) or OS 6.1.1 is wasting more cpu with btrfs daemons or readynasd perhaps...
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Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
20°C is not enough for ATOM mintemp cpu, and the fan always run noisy to decrease temperature. 50°C would be a realistic and better value.
minpwm & maxpwm are missing in your fancontrol file paste. I assume it is just a paste error.
You can try these values :
MINTEMP= hwmon1/device/pwm1=50
MAXTEMP= hwmon1/device/pwm1=60
MINSTART= hwmon1/device/pwm1=60
MINSTOP= hwmon1/device/pwm1=60
MINPWM= hwmon1/device/pwm1=60
MAXPWM= hwmon1/device/pwm1=255
minpwm & maxpwm are missing in your fancontrol file paste. I assume it is just a paste error.
You can try these values :
MINTEMP= hwmon1/device/pwm1=50
MAXTEMP= hwmon1/device/pwm1=60
MINSTART= hwmon1/device/pwm1=60
MINSTOP= hwmon1/device/pwm1=60
MINPWM= hwmon1/device/pwm1=60
MAXPWM= hwmon1/device/pwm1=255
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05:16 PM
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Re: Easy fix fan/temp issues on OS6 legacy #no support
glem wrote: 20°C is not enough for ATOM mintemp cpu, and the fan always run noisy to decrease temperature. 50°C would be a realistic and better value.
Ok, I'll give a higher value a go, just enough to get it silent (its pretty good at 1800rpm and below on the Ultra 4).
glem wrote: minpwm & maxpwm are missing in your fancontrol file paste. I assume it is just a paste error.
They actually weren't saved in the file for some reason. Strange...
Also having installed fancontrol and used the above settings, it's indeed rock-solid at 34º CPU and 30º case temps, no more cyclic variation, so it does at least seem to be working more as expected.
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