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Frontview thinks ReadyNAS NV+ is ReadyNAS Duo

Qazy321
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Frontview thinks ReadyNAS NV+ is ReadyNAS Duo

I have ReadyNAS NV+ v1 with 4x 1TB disk, RAIDiator 4.1.16. I performed factory reset to delete all data and start from scratch. Now there are few missing things in frontview (see picture). How do I fix it? And is it necessary to fix it?

ReadyNAS_frontview picture  

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Marc_V
NETGEAR Employee Retired

Re: Frontview thinks ReadyNAS NV+ is ReadyNAS Duo

@Qazy321

 

Welcome to the Community!

 

Have you tried updating the firmware to the latest? Can you send me a screenshot of your NAS Labels (Bottom, back) which includes the SN and other numbers? There might be information that got corrupted when you did a reset.

 

 

Regards

Message 2 of 19
StephenB
Guru

Re: Frontview thinks ReadyNAS NV+ is ReadyNAS Duo

Frontview is identifying it as an NV+, and the text says 4 disks.  But it only showing two disk icons on the bottom of the home page. Firmware is already 4.1.16 (latest), so that isn't relevant.

 

If you have a scratch disk, try

  • powering down
  • remove disks (labeling by slot)
  • do a fresh factory install with only the scratch disk inserted

If that shows all the disk icons, then a factory reset with your operational disks should resolve the issue.

 

 

Message 3 of 19
Qazy321
Aspirant

Re: Frontview thinks ReadyNAS NV+ is ReadyNAS Duo

remove disks - you mean remove 3 disks a leave 1 disk in slot 1 ?

do a fresh factory install - factory reset or OS reinstall? Or both (and what first) ?

 

All disks are OK. I don't care about data. I want to start from beginning with empty disks and default settings.

Message 4 of 19
StephenB
Guru

Re: Frontview thinks ReadyNAS NV+ is ReadyNAS Duo


@Qazy321 wrote:

remove disks - you mean remove 3 disks a leave 1 disk in slot 1 ?

do a fresh factory install - factory reset or OS reinstall? Or both (and what first) ?

 


Actually I meant remove all four and use a scratch disk.

 

But if you don't care about the data, then do a factory reset with one disk in place.  Then try booting the system with that disk in every slot (just to make sure that the SATA bus is working ok).

 

Then try another factory reset with all disks in place.

Message 5 of 19
Qazy321
Aspirant

Re: Frontview thinks ReadyNAS NV+ is ReadyNAS Duo

After factory reset with one disk (tested in every slot) I ended up with this:Empty Frontview picture 

Message 6 of 19
StephenB
Guru

Re: Frontview thinks ReadyNAS NV+ is ReadyNAS Duo


@Qazy321 wrote:

After factory reset with one disk (tested in every slot) I ended up with this:Empty Frontview picture 


Is this with the single disk or with all four?

Have you tried a different browser?

 

You might also check the status with RAIDar: https://kb.netgear.com/20684/ReadyNAS-Downloads#raidar

Message 7 of 19
Qazy321
Aspirant

Re: Frontview thinks ReadyNAS NV+ is ReadyNAS Duo

It is with single disk no matter what position.  Tested in Firefox and IE.

RAIDar shows status healthy.

Message 8 of 19
StephenB
Guru

Re: Frontview thinks ReadyNAS NV+ is ReadyNAS Duo


@Qazy321 wrote:

It is with single disk no matter what position.  Tested in Firefox and IE.

RAIDar shows status healthy.


Is it possible that the factory reset didn't complete?  

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Qazy321
Aspirant

Re: Frontview thinks ReadyNAS NV+ is ReadyNAS Duo


Is it possible that the factory reset didn't complete?  

How do I find out?

Message 10 of 19
Qazy321
Aspirant

Re: Frontview thinks ReadyNAS NV+ is ReadyNAS Duo

I did factory reset and wipe disks with RAIDar. After that frontview was accessible again, but same as in first post. After restoring setting I got empty frontview again.

 

This setting was saved about 2 week ago, when everything was OK - i.e. 4 disk icons, temperature readings, NAS in domain.

Message 11 of 19
StephenB
Guru

Re: Frontview thinks ReadyNAS NV+ is ReadyNAS Duo


@Qazy321 wrote:

Is it possible that the factory reset didn't complete?  

How do I find out?


You'd have to it again.  How long did you wait after the factory reset before you powered down?  Were you able to get through the setup wizard?

Message 12 of 19
StephenB
Guru

Re: Frontview thinks ReadyNAS NV+ is ReadyNAS Duo


@Qazy321 wrote:

I did factory reset and wipe disks with RAIDar. After that frontview was accessible again, but same as in first post. After restoring setting I got empty frontview again.

 

This setting was saved about 2 week ago, when everything was OK - i.e. 4 disk icons, temperature readings, NAS in domain.


One obvious piece of advice is to not restore the settings.

 

Not sure if the missing two disk icons on the home page are critical to the operation of the NAS or not.  You might try downgrading the firmware to 4.1.15 and then upgrading again to 4.1.16 if you see this issue after another reset.

Message 13 of 19
Qazy321
Aspirant

Re: Frontview thinks ReadyNAS NV+ is ReadyNAS Duo


@StephenB wrote:

You'd have to it again.  How long did you wait after the factory reset before you powered down?  Were you able to get through the setup wizard?


I waited until RAIDar said NAS is ready. I did not power down, just executed factory reset and checked RAIDar few hours later. Setup wizard is accessible only after disk wipe.

 


@StephenB wrote:


One obvious piece of advice is to not restore the settings.

 

Not sure if the missing two disk icons on the home page are critical to the operation of the NAS or not.  You might try downgrading the firmware to 4.1.15 and then upgrading again to 4.1.16 if you see this issue after another reset.


Why not restore the settings? I thought this is exactly what is backup for if something goes wrong.

 

Missing icons are not critical unless it is only symptom. If fails disk in slot 3 or 4 and there will be no warning, that is critical. There is also missing security mode in menu and temperature icon. Maybe that is why fan i going at full speed all the time.

 

I can wipe disk again, downgrade to older FW (I have 4.1.6) and maybe do another factory reset.

Message 14 of 19
StephenB
Guru

Re: Frontview thinks ReadyNAS NV+ is ReadyNAS Duo


@Qazy321 wrote:
Why not restore the settings? I thought this is exactly what is backup for if something goes wrong.

Because you've done it twice, and ended up with the blank Frontview screen both times.

 

Plus there's no need to do that with the single disk test.

Message 15 of 19
Qazy321
Aspirant

Re: Frontview thinks ReadyNAS NV+ is ReadyNAS Duo

So I tried RAIDiator 4.1.16, 4.1.14, 4.1.10, 4.1.8 and 4.1.6. But nothing helped. After downgrade to 4.1.6 RAIDar is no longer detecting ReadyNAS.

 

Tomorrow I'm going to replace 1TB disks with 80GB disks because every test (factory reset) is very time-consuming.

Message 16 of 19
StephenB
Guru

Re: Frontview thinks ReadyNAS NV+ is ReadyNAS Duo


@Qazy321 wrote:

After downgrade to 4.1.6 RAIDar is no longer detecting ReadyNAS.


Going back that far wasn't a good idea. 

Message 17 of 19
Qazy321
Aspirant

Re: Frontview thinks ReadyNAS NV+ is ReadyNAS Duo


@StephenB wrote:


Going back that far wasn't a good idea. 


Too late. Any ideas what can I try next? And I don't mean firmware (RAIDiator), it can be upgraded over web interface.

Message 18 of 19
StephenB
Guru

Re: Frontview thinks ReadyNAS NV+ is ReadyNAS Duo


@Qazy321 wrote:

Missing icons are not critical unless it is only symptom. If fails disk in slot 3 or 4 and there will be no warning, that is critical. There is also missing security mode in menu and temperature icon. Maybe that is why fan i going at full speed all the time.

 


Ok.  So that combination does suggest that the firmware might be confused about the hardware.

 

There could be an issue with the flash (or an failing eeprom) that is leading to this result.  Netgear might be able to diagnose that, but I can't.  Perhaps reach out (via private message) to @Marc_V or @JohnCM_S and ask if they'd be willing to take a look remotely. 

 

You could also try USB recovery - though that carries some risk.

 

One question you should ask yourself is how much time you're prepared to invest.  Netgear stopped production on your NAS back in 2011, and announced that 4.1.16 would be the final firmware.  At some point you will need to simply move on to something newer.

 

 

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