I'm moving files around on my ready nas, having setup backup jobs to copy all my data from an external USB drive to my shares. Problem is, it's shockingly slow, taking hours to move folders of a few hundred meg. I've turned off all other devices on the network to eliminate traffic.
My setup:
Brand new ReadyNas Duo 2x500GB Netgear DG834 Wireless router (b/g) connected to PS3, Yamaha amp, DSL broadband via CAT5e. XP Desktop PC (Belkin wireless PCI card b/g/n) comodo firewall/AVG - can't cable this due to location! XP Laptop (Wireless b/g) comodo firewall/AVG
What's the best way to generally perform day-to-day move/copy functions, as I would if it were a local drive? I've mapped the drives in windows (home/media/backup etc..) and want to move say from backup to my media/videos share.
I assume if I were to cable driect to the router that would be better (but sadly not practical), but surely if I just want to move something locally bettween shares on the NAs I can eliminate the overheads of wireless, without having to set a backup job every time I want to shuffle things around?!?! :oops:
I get the same performance over WiFi on my ReadyNAS Pro Business that I get on my WD MyBookWorld (about 2-3 MB/sec tops), and the MBW is lambasted as having pitiful 10/100 performance.
If you're getting comperable performance, the only way to improve it wirelessly is to upgrade to Draft-N. Personally, I'm holding off on N until its fully ratified, currently expected to be around Nov '09.
When you move a file from one share to another, it will actually copy it via your NIC (so it will go from NAS to PC to NAS).
If you are just moving files on the NAS you can stop this from happening by mapping a share to \\NAS\c using your admin user\pwd and that way all of your named shares will be visible under that single mapping.
Further to lordgibbness' post, if you are using an external USB hard drive you could always connect it directly to the NAS and use the backup utility in Frontview to backup the data. As lordginness mentions in his post, this will prevent the data from having to traverse the network and it will provide the best performance.
Typical performance numbers can be found in this thread:
I use a mac os X, can I just use terminal and find the ReadyNas in the root directory, or is there some other way that I will need to give the linux mv commands to the server?
I'd like to echo some frustration here. Why isn't there a simple web-based tool to move/copy files around the ReadyNAS shares/folders?? Expecting users to mount shares or go into a Linux shell just to accomplish this incredibly simple task is very surprising.
On an NV+ SSH isn't needed to copy files, a USB device can be attached to the NV+ and a backup job in Frontview can be set up to copy the files to a share.
I'd like to echo some frustration here. Why isn't there a simple web-based tool to move/copy files around the ReadyNAS shares/folders?? Expecting users to mount shares or go into a Linux shell just to accomplish this incredibly simple task is very surprising.
I agree completely, it is suprising. Although I did enjoy learning linux commands.
I'd like to echo some frustration here. Why isn't there a simple web-based tool to move/copy files around the ReadyNAS shares/folders?? Expecting users to mount shares or go into a Linux shell just to accomplish this incredibly simple task is very surprising.
I'm with you all the way. Having to define backup jobs and run them seems sort of overkill. And having to delve into Linux commands, well... I guess I'll have to learn sooner or later anyway, but rather later than sooner, and a more user-friendly approach would certainly be appreciated.
Is there no Windows app that can help with this (without going thru the computer, of course)?
Here's what I did to copy from an external USB HD to my Duo, maybe these instructions will help someone: 1. Attach the USB HD (of course 🙂 2. Start FrontView by clicking Setup in RAIDar 2. Under Volumes > USB Storage you should see your USB HD with a name like USB_HDD_1 (you can change this if don't like it) 3. Under Backup > Add New Backup Job you define which dir from the USB HD (Step 1: source) to copy to which dir on the Duo (Step 2: destination); the devices are found in the drop-down lists, the dirs you have to enter manually. 4. Never mind the backup schedule, we're gonna run this job immediately (and then remove it) 5. Click the Apply button to add the job. 6. Go to Backup > Backup Jobs and click the Go button, this will start the job, you should see the status change to Starting and then to In Progress. You will also get a popup saying job strated this-and-that time. 7. Now the Duo is doing its work on its own, not going via the computer. 8. After the job is done, remove the backup job (unless of course, you want this to occur regulalrly)
If there are more efficient/easier ways to do this, please fill me in.
If you have enabled ssh as root to the NAS you can use a find command to move the files. Since you want the final destination in the same directory that we will be searching we will for simplicity have a temporary directory to move the files to outside of the directory being searched. In your example you want all of the the jpg, jpeg, tif and tiff files found under the "/Archive" directory moved to the directory "/Archive/NewDirectory". Since this is on a ReadyNAS I will assume that the "/Archive" directory is under a share named backup. To avoid having to actually having to copy the contents of the files we want to move the files on the same mounted volume. Unless you have done a custom volume setup you will have a directory off of "/" named "c" which is the x-raid volume where your the directories for the shares are located. The full path to the Archive directory under the backup share would be "/c/backup/Archive".
WARNING: The use of find to execute any command that modifies files/directories if done wrong can have catastrophic results so be careful if you are going to use this.
First we make the temporary directory:
mkdir /c/backup/TempArchive
Now we move the files into the temporary directory:
Now to clean up by removing the temporary directory:
rmdir /c/backup/TempArchive
This should be very fast since there is no actual copy of the file content being done, the file entry is just being modified to have it in the new location.
When you move a file from one share to another, it will actually copy it via your NIC (so it will go from NAS to PC to NAS).
If you are just moving files on the NAS you can stop this from happening by mapping a share to \\NAS\c using your admin user\pwd and that way all of your named shares will be visible under that single mapping.
Cheers, Rob.
Rob I notice when copying files this way it doesn't show the owner as ADMIN but as ROOT. Does this cause any weird permission issues?
When you move a file from one share to another, it will actually copy it via your NIC (so it will go from NAS to PC to NAS).
If you are just moving files on the NAS you can stop this from happening by mapping a share to \\NAS\c using your admin user\pwd and that way all of your named shares will be visible under that single mapping.
Cheers, Rob.
Is it possible to see Volume C via HTTP/HTTPS interface to copy files between shares remotely?
I haven't enabled the web interface for file shares so I can't comment on that, but give it a go and let us know. Haven't heard of any issues moving files logged in as admin... 🙂
I haven't enabled the web interface for file shares so I can't comment on that, but give it a go and let us know. Haven't heard of any issues moving files logged in as admin... 🙂
It's not a share available to share up in the GUI. Anyone know a way to get Volume C accessible via HTTP/HTTPS????
I am trying to move files across share drives like move \\driveA \\driveA\folder,but it is not working.Do i need to use any specific command for share drive file moving...i got a answer that you have to copy not move.....but still it is not getting copy.........
Bump. Any native OSX solutions? Just moving a folder should not have to actually literally copy all of the files.
As far as I know, you can't do it using AFP. You can use CIFS and use the same method, but be advised that CIFS does not support the same character set as AFP, so there may be a few issues:
