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kmikol42
Mar 17, 2021Tutor
Orb RB40 MAJOR DNS Issue
My $300 dollar Orbi investemnt appears to be a waste of money after 4 months use. All of a sudden the Router stops responding to DNS requests. I work in the network engineering field and have over 20 years of experience and ths issue is definalty with the router. After searching forums about this issue, I am seeing tons of customers with the same type of problem, the issue does not appear to be new to Netgear. I can expect bugs/hardware issue in network equipment, what I can except is a company that will not provide adequate support to address the problem, nor does it appear that they care about the problem since I see threads abou tthis across multiple product lines and from long time ago.
Issue - DNSMASQ service stopps responding - I can fix it by either toggling DNS servive from DHCP to static, or by telneting into the device and issue a command to restart the service. /etc/init.d/dnsmasq restart Issue resolves itself quickly by doing one of these two things. Also when I hard code my PC to use a google dns server, issue does not happen on PC, all other devices that get thier DHCP from the Orbi router stop functioing.
Major Problem - With the pandemic I have kids e-learning at home, they are not tech savy and can't fix the issue themselves.
I tried to hard code thier school issued laptops to a static google DNS entry but as you expect the school does not allow students to get to the TCP/IP properties on the laptop.
Afer combing throught the forums, people have fixed the issue by purchasing a new NON Netgear router and placing the Orbi in AP mode only. This is NOT a soltuion to the problem. After spending over $300 for a mesh wifi system I expect all functionality to work and not have to procure addiational equipment to solve an issue that Netgear has on thier multiple products and is not fixing.
After contacting support , nice guy, but he was not able to asist since I did not have extended support. Howver I am still under hardware warranty. How do I know if this is a software bug or a hardware issue, could be either? I asked to have the device RMA's but was unsuccesull. In any case tech support was follwoing prototocols and said the router hardware is fine based on thier "system" info. He had me check the lights, not sure if that is where the concllusion arose from. Without a support contract he was not able to provide any more help.
Woudld the call be differnt if I call back and say the router is not powering on. You can fry small electroncs pretty easy, woudl it then be covered under Netgears warranty?
I have owned multiple Netgear products in the past and have not had this type of issue. This is one of the more expensive ones I purchased for personal use, and am very dissapointed. I understand bugs happen, but this "bug" appears to be going on for a very long time with Orbi products, and Netgear is not addressing the issue for thier customers.
Needless to say I will not by buying any more Netgear products for my perosnal use or for my proffesional use. NETGEAR you need to stand behind your products!!!
I am venitng my frustrations as well as starting my awareness campaign for anybody that is potentiatlly looking at Orbi product line. STAY AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
40 Replies
- kickwormGuide
I'm so glad I checked the forums! I just today started having the same issue as you. I'll be using the internet as I normally do and then my network icon will suddenly show that I'm not connected to the internet. I recently upgraded to a faster internet plan so I thought that was the cause. It was weird, though, because the modem was online (status lights all good) and the Orbi (RBK50 running latest firmware) was not giving me the purple ring indicating that something was wrong with the modem.
During my troubleshooting, I noticed the DNS error message thrown by my web browser. I got curious and manually set my computer's DNS to Google's (my Orbi is set to use OpenDNS). Low and behold, my network icon still showed that I was not connected to the internet, but I was able to surf the web. Thinking that something was wrong with OpenDNS, I logged into my Orbi and set the DNS to automatic. Problem solved.
That was about 5 hours ago. Fast forward to a few minutes ago and the same issue happened. Network icon on my computer indicated that I was not connected to the internet. Again, modem status lights were all good and Orbi was not displaying the purple ring. Manually set my DNS and was able to surf the web right away. That is when I came to the forums and saw your post and someone else's.
In the other post, someone mentioned that setting your NTP server to something other than Netgear's may solve the issue. Weird, but okay. Maybe the differences in time was causing sync issues with the DNS servers? I set my NTP server to time.nist.gov even though the correct time was displayed in the Orbi web GUI. Crossing my fingers that this does the trick because we're all working from home and the kids have online classes.
If I wake up in the morning and find the Orbi is doing the same thing, I may pick up another router (not Netgear) and put the Orbi in AP mode.
Good luck to the both of us!
- vajimMaster
Firmware?
- kickwormGuide
The latest for RBK50, 2.7.2.104.
I'm having the exact same problem (as best as I can tell) with my RBR20. It started the same day that I upgraded from firmware version (I wish I knew!) to V2.6.2.104. The version number makes me think that it's closely related to the RBR50 firmware that is having problems.
- FURRYe38Guru - Experienced User
Has a factory reset and setup from scratch been performed?
Also:
Bill01568 wrote:I'm having the exact same problem (as best as I can tell) with my RBR20. It started the same day that I upgraded from firmware version (I wish I knew!) to V2.6.2.104. The version number makes me think that it's closely related to the RBR50 firmware that is having problems.
See this post for your options:
- vajimMaster
r0b0tvampire wrote:See this post for your options:
keep in mind this will work until the next firmware update
- maxxvelocityAspirant
r0b0tvampire wrote:See this post for your options:
Just read that post. Yeah, sounds like DST on Sunday started this whole mess.
- maxxvelocityAspirant
Add me to this list. Have RBR50 v2.7.2.104 firmware, DNS issue start happening 3 days ago and really bad yesterday and today.
The only workaround I have so far is login to the router, Basic tab, Internet, and just click Apply. That somehow will reset the DNS back for a few minutes, then the problem just repeats. On the PC I can change my DNS to Google public DNS for now but the rest of the devices are screwed.
- Blanca_ONETGEAR Employee Retired
Hi Orbi Community,
The issue has been forwarded already to engineers.
If you are willing to work on the issue, please send me a private message by clicking on this link and I will PM you requesting for more information. We appreciate your help working on this issue.
Regards,
Blanca
Community Team- BigVarAspirantEver since this last Sunday I've been having nothing but headaches with DNS errors. It mostly effects my cell phones and tablets. But there are a bunch of users on Reddit with the same issue. Daylight savings or a firmware update must be the issue. I've tried everything. I need help. My email address is Bigvar215@gmail.com
- FURRYe38Guru - Experienced User
Has a factory reset and setup from scratch been performed?
BigVar wrote:
Ever since this last Sunday I've been having nothing but headaches with DNS errors. It mostly effects my cell phones and tablets. But there are a bunch of users on Reddit with the same issue. Daylight savings or a firmware update must be the issue. I've tried everything. I need help. My email address is Bigvar215@gmail.com
- capGrundyAspirant
Unfortunately this doesn't help those of us who didn't dish out for paywalled extended support. If you are willing to help people who didn't pay, why the extortion to purchase a plan if there is the possibility of support when there is a real problem.
I have been a 20 or so year Netgear customer, and it used to be the support that kept me loyal. Since the Orbi product at least, it seemed to be a turn towards making that a paid premium, instead of real strength of the company.
For those struggling, the option to do the crontab with the "/etc/init.d/dnsmasq restart" helped band aid the issue for now. I refuse to do a factory reset, because the one time I did I needed help from support, and I know I won't have that help a second time.If you are willing to work on the issue, please send me a private message by clicking on this link and I will PM you requesting for more information. We appreciate your help working on this issue.
- kmikol42TutorChanging my time appears to be helping me with my issue. Have not experienced the dns bug in over 48 hours.
Disabled daylight savings, and changed time to from central to east to ensure time is correct without using DST.
This seems like the easiest fix until netgear fixes the issue with a code upgrade.
- Blanca_ONETGEAR Employee Retired
Hi Orbi Community,
Engineering was able to discover the cause of this issue and they are working on a fix in regards to the disconnections.
The issue comes from Traffic meter while daylight saving is enabled. The quick workaround is to disable the traffic meter.
To disable traffic meter:
Access orbilogin.com > go to ADVANCED Tab > Advanced Setup > Traffic Meter and uncheck Traffic MeterWe appreciate all your cooperation and patience working with us. We will provide update once we have the fix firmware.
Regards,
Blanca
Community Team- vajimMaster
Thanks for the update
so it sounds like the problem is traffic meter as it plays with the newer firmware
I have DST activated but NOT the traffic meter on my older firmware with NO problems
- LslocumAspirant
Traffic meter has been off, it is set to eastern time and I still have to reboot it frequently. I had this problem in the beginning (December 2020) and a very polite, professional rep had me change some settings. Now the problem is back and the only way to get help is to pay $90 for a 6 month service package. Doesn't seem right to have to pay for a service package when the equipment clearly has a problem. Cut out in the middle of a sales presentation today - going to have to buy something else if this can't be fixed. Any other suggestions?
- capGrundyAspirant
Put it on craigslist like I did.
- TightWadInitiateAs a data point, i have been experiencing DNS failures prior to Daylight Savings Time change over. It began when about 2 firmware upgrades prior. Before that time, never experienced this phenomenon.