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bluefish10
Aug 02, 2017Guide
Orbi satellite dropping connection
Right to the point: my Orbi system has 2 satellites and 1 main tower. The internet drops/slows down (to the point where internet browsing is not possible) 2-3 times per day randomly without warning o...
BoilerPlate
Sep 30, 2018Apprentice
I believe that there are some with problems however since this thread started over a year ago, there have been updates AND improvments. So there has been progress. I believe for some with continued problems, some of you how have not proved your selves in trying what others have mentioned or even maybe contacted NG support to ask for help and information regarding your problems, may find the since last year, most of these issues are not FW releated. Theres been alot of FW updates to fix most of these issues. There are other factors that others have suggestions with have help many users get there systems working better and stable. Of course, other issues are the fact that some are HW related which not FW update is going to fix.
Theres been multitudes of users having good experiences and those helping out have been trying there best to help them as well, with success:
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-10-kills-Internet-access-if-you-use-Ethernet-back/m-p/1603922/highlight/true#M35521
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1592753/highlight/true#M34020
Another initial setup process: https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Backhaul-breaks-the-whole-network/m-p/1615770/highlight/true#M38393
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586988/highlight/true#M33202
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-wired-backhaul-performance/m-p/1548397/highlight/false#M27862
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/I-found-a-Connection-issue-Resolution-for-wired-backhaul/m-p/1559747#M29420
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-4-10-kills-Internet-access-if-you-use-Ethernet-back/m-p/1560805/highlight/false#M29587
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585890/highlight/true#M33049
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585994/highlight/true#M33074
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1553749/highlight/true#M30673
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Using-Router-Configured-as-Access-Point-Cannot-see-Satellites-in/m-p/1612052/highlight/true#M37974
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-Ethernet-Backhaul-with-Managed-Switches/m-p/1613897#M38123
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1548414/highlight/true#M27868
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/speed-slows-down-Orbi/m-p/1551822/highlight/true#M28289
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Is-2-1-3-4-in-auto-update/m-p/1553979/highlight/true#M28616
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-Satellite-RBS50-Not-Connecting-via-Ethernet/m-p/1556692/highlight/false#M28949
Just to highlight a few.
So you can't say this is always a FW issue. I beleive in most cases this is a environment or end user mis-configuration of the system which needs some additional help and information to get working better. So unless you can prove to use that you've done all and maybe asked for an RMA, then you just can't make a blanket statement to say that the NG Orbi is a total failure. it's not. Granted there have been FW issues and some HW issues. I presume those here in the forums are only trying to help others out in determinting where the REAL issues are and to help the users get them fixed, make adjustments or get the HW RMAd.
Overall the system does work. However due to many different kinds of environments and configurations, there are going to some that don't work well right out of the box. Why those are here trying to help other figure this out and why the community is here for.
- skandociousOct 01, 2018Guide
Update: I've started an RMA on the Amplifi (the speed without a dedicated backhaul is just unimpressive, and I was continually finding it making some strange decisions regard band steering).
I also found out I get a signifiance discount on Linksys Velop through my employer so I picked up a 3-node set for testing (Orbi is still in returnable window for several more works). Been on Velop since yesterday evening and it seems fairly reliable and mostly splits the difference between Orbi and Amplifi when it comes to speed (can consistenly get at least 80-100 Mbps throughout the house). I definitely feel that their management is better than Netgear (cmon Netgear, your web UI is HORRIBLE).
I intend to live on Velop for a week or two and see how it compares to Orbi. The one consistent finding I'm having is that Orbi really seems to blow the others away in terms of wireless performance, even the Velop which has dedicated backhaul radios. I haven't yet explored the option to use a separate AP + Orbi in bridge mode (I have a Netgear R7000 that I could use in this config). More updates to come...
- nvtOct 01, 2018Apprentice
Quite frankly I have no idea where or why the issue occurs - firmware, hardware who knows. The fact that this thread dates back that long tells you that it has not been resolved as there are still new people buying this device with the expectation of it working and finding it does not. It's disingenuous to suggest we have to prove ourselves to be believed. Why on earth would I make this up? What possible motivation do I have to make up this story and consume even more of my most valuable commodity - time?
What I do know is another Mesh network was stood up and worked flawlessly in 15 mins and did not fail for wired or wireless. Just offering examples of it working doesn't mean there are no problems.
As I have repeatedly stated I am not even commenting on the Wireless network - this device failed for my wired network.
I have tried to navigate the support and have a 33 page document capturing my interactions, and calls.
I had an RMA - returned the device and replaced it with a "new" one as provided (it did not appear new based on the packaging). It worked for <24 hours before the same problem recurred
I've spent *hours* on the phone attempting to talk to technical support including one call that started at 09:34 and I finally gave up having been on hold for 99% of the time at 13:10. I spoke to a total of 2 people on that call for a total of 3+3+1+1+2 = 10 mins out of a total call time of 3 hrs and 36 mins. This btw is only one of multiple calls many >1 hours long mostly of waiting on hold.
* I've interacted with the online support system updating my case and told I will be called back - when they do I'm not available.
* I provided access to my calendar to book a mutually convenient time - they said they were unable to access the URL.
* I offered a window of time to call me back but was told days later the individual was not working and had only just received the message and told, and I quote " My shift starts at 10:00 PM - 7:00 AM (Eastern Time) "
I appreciate the intention of some on this forum to help and troubleshoot and I have tried much of this but the problem remains and I would not wish this experience on anyone. It crushed my network and consumed huge amounts of my time all to no avail.
The same point remains - for anyone considering this device are you willing to entrust your network to a device which could fail and bring your network down, randomly, for unknown periods of time and with no known method to fix or resolve (short of rebooting every device every 24 hours - and even that's uncertain). I know I would not
- skandociousOct 07, 2018GuideAnother update— AmpliFi released an update and now it’s AWESOME! I’m getting a consistent 100+ Mbps all throughout my house and it’s no longer interfering with the baby monitor, so it seems their channel selection is much improved (this was cited in their release notes). Incidentally I bought the product right after they released an update that broke everything and people in the support forums were very unhappy, so my first experience with this product was not representative of the correct experience.
Still not as fast as Orbi but rock solid consistent connectivity and much better management. I think I’m finally ready to return the Orbi, will likely do that this week, along with the Linksys Velop which was a train wreck.
I did notice NETGEAR released a firmware update recently. Any word on whether that helped this particular issue?- FURRYe38Oct 07, 2018Guru - Experienced User
skandocious wrote:
Another update— AmpliFi released an update and now it’s AWESOME! I’m getting a consistent 100+ Mbps all throughout my house and it’s no longer interfering with the baby monitor, so it seems their channel selection is much improved (this was cited in their release notes). Incidentally I bought the product right after they released an update that broke everything and people in the support forums were very unhappy, so my first experience with this product was not representative of the correct experience.
Still not as fast as Orbi but rock solid consistent connectivity and much better management. I think I’m finally ready to return the Orbi, will likely do that this week, along with the Linksys Velop which was a train wreck.
I did notice NETGEAR released a firmware update recently. Any word on whether that helped this particular issue?