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Re: EDA500 connecting directly to PC

Sandshark
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Re: EDA500 connecting directly to PC

If by "access your drives" you mean read data from them that's already on them, then no.  The NAS will need to re-format them to a Linux format before you can use them, which will wipe out all data.  If you mean "make use of the drives", then yes.

 

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Emachine
Aspirant

Re: EDA500 connecting directly to PC

On my 4 drives of 4TB are musicvideo's.

So this means when I want to use the 4TB drives, than I need to format them in Linux, and all my musicvideo's are gone.

Than better I send the EDA500 back to the shop 😉

 

Many thanks for your help

 

Greetings,

 

Luc

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Sandshark
Sensei

Re: EDA500 connecting directly to PC

Does your PC eSATA controller support port multiplication?  If it doesn't say it does, it probably doesn't.  Most motherboard eSATA connections don't.  That could be why it's not working for you on the PC.  Or, it just may not be possible.  The OP posted that he is getting a controller that does support it, so you may want to wait and see if he has better luck.  But even if it does work, you might not be able to use your drives with the data on them.  I can't see the part number on the big IC well enough in the pictures, but it looks to be something more than just a SATA multiplier, quite likely programmable.

 

You definately don't want to use those drives in a NAS (internally or in an expansion chassis), as the contents will be wiped.  I think you should be looking for a USB3 or SATA drive dock.  Note that a DAS that uses RAID (such as a Drobo 5c or 5d) is also not what you want, as they also need to reformat the drives to create the RAID.  Make sure it states it suports drives of at least 4TB.  I'd expect anything with USB3 to do so, but never assume.  I'm not aware of any Netgear product that's designed for what you want.

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jak0lantash
Mentor

Re: EDA500 connecting directly to PC

Directly purchasing a DAS seems a lot less painful than trying to repurpose an EDA500. Two-minutes-amazon-search examples:

https://www.amazon.com/Mediasonic-ProBox-HF2-SU3S2-SATA-Enclosure/dp/B003X26VV4/

https://www.amazon.com/ORICO-9558RU3-Enclosure-Connection-Aluminum/dp/B00WHMT604/

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StephenB
Guru

Re: EDA500 connecting directly to PC


@jak0lantash wrote:

Directly purchasing a DAS seems a lot less painful than trying to repurpose an EDA500. Two-minutes-amazon-search examples:

https://www.amazon.com/Mediasonic-ProBox-HF2-SU3S2-SATA-Enclosure/dp/B003X26VV4/

https://www.amazon.com/ORICO-9558RU3-Enclosure-Connection-Aluminum/dp/B00WHMT604/


At ~$125 the EDA500 might be worth buying just to get the 6 drive trays. 

 

Even if it does work in a PC, you would lose USB (which the Orico has).  But the EDA is $50 cheaper than the ORICO and has the same number of live bays. So if someone here found it works in a PC, then probably are folks here who might go for it. 

 

 

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jak0lantash
Mentor

Re: EDA500 connecting directly to PC

The EDA500 has 5 bays. Well, iirc, it has 6, but only 5 have a connector in the back.
A DAS could also provide interesting features such as RAID (directly on the chassis). And it works out of the box.
My point is that maybe an EDA500 for $125 is a good deal but not as no-brainer as it may seem.
Message 31 of 43
StephenB
Guru

Re: EDA500 connecting directly to PC


@jak0lantash wrote:


My point is that maybe an EDA500 for $125 is a good deal but not as no-brainer as it may seem.

I don't disagree with that.  You do need an eSATA adapter with a port multiplier - which is a big limitation.  USB works with any of my PCs (including the laptops).

 

But I don't see much risk for someone who wants to try it - even if they can't return it, they could likely get the purchase price back by reselling the disk trays on ebay.


@jak0lantash wrote:


A DAS ... works out of the box.


I guess the whole point here is that an EDA500 might work out of the box too.  We'll know when the OP gets back (or if someone else who already owns one can check it).

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Caesarea
Guide

Re: EDA500 connecting directly to PC

I'm still waiting for the Startech® 2 Port PCI-Express eSATA Controller Adapter Card (PEXESATA2).

I also ordered the StarTech.com 2-poort SATA 6 Gbit/s PCI Express eSATA (PEXESAT32).

I will test both and share it with you all. Finger crossed!
Message 33 of 43
Caesarea
Guide

Re: EDA500 connecting directly to PC

The combination EDA500 and StarTech.com 2-port SATA 6 Gbit/s PCI Express eSATA (PEXESAT32) WORKS!!!

 

But if you connect the second EDA500 to the second port of the PCI, it does NOT work.

 

Good luck to you all.

 

Thanks for the responses!

Message 34 of 43
Sandshark
Sensei

Re: EDA500 connecting directly to PC

Did you put in drives that already had data on them and find you could access that, or just empty ones?

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Emachine
Aspirant

Re: EDA500 connecting directly to PC

I have also a 2-port SATA 6 Gbit/s PCI Express eSATA. Here it doens't work, maybe on the card I need to change the jumpers or something else.

Can you acces all the 5 bays ?

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Caesarea
Guide

Re: EDA500 connecting directly to PC

Both with data and empty harddisk

Message 37 of 43
Caesarea
Guide

Re: EDA500 connecting directly to PC

Does your 2-port SATA 6 Gbit/s PCI Express eSATA supports port-multiplier?

What is the brand of this card?

Message 38 of 43
Emachine
Aspirant

Re: EDA500 connecting directly to PC

Concepttronic

 

PCI Express Card SATA 600 CSATA600EXI

 

So, you can acces all the bays from the EDA500 ? Can you let me know on what site you bought your card ? Maybe it's not allowedn here me e-mailadress

luccaes@gmail.com

 

Where do you come from ? The Netherlands 😉

 

Thanks for your help

 

Luc

Message 39 of 43
Caesarea
Guide

Re: EDA500 connecting directly to PC

Indeed, I'm dutch.

 

Go to ACES Direct for my StarTech.com 2-port SATA 6 Gbit/s PCI Express eSATA (PEXESAT32)

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Emachine
Aspirant

Re: EDA500 connecting directly to PC

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doxdixen
Aspirant

Re: EDA500 connecting directly to PC

Hi Luc, 

 

How are the noise levels with the expansion? 

If you purchase the Startech 2-port it is just plug and play with the expansion?

Just put the HDD's in the expansion. Expansion connecting with eSata to the startech and you see your drives in Windows 10?
How are the speeds? If you write a big file to the HDD's what could you expect?

Regards, 

 

Jordi 

p.s. also from the Netherlands 😉

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Emachine
Aspirant

Re: EDA500 connecting directly to PC

HURRAY HURRAY HURRAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Probleem opgelost !!!!!!

 

Problem solved, it recognize now all my drive's !!!!!!!!!

 

The only thing you need is the right person !!!!!!!!!

 

Now all plug and play after I downloaded the JMicron JMB 36X Controller

 

Transferspeed very good, and I put the drive's in they comes right away available !!!!!!

 

Thanks all for the help

 

Luc xxx

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