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Re: NV+v2 more than 12tb storage?

krth8
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NV+v2 more than 12tb storage?

Hi,

One of my drives is starting to fail and i am looking at replacements. When i bought the nas it supported a maximum of 4x3tb drives.

 

Checked the hdd compatability list now and there is one 4tb drive listed there. could i change out all my drives to get 4x4tb?

I cant find much info about maximum total storage.

 

Would like to upgrade my device as well soon, but i want this to be running for a bit more.

 

Thanks!

 

Model: RND4000v2|READYNAS NV+ v2|EOL
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StephenB
Guru

Re: NV+v2 more than 12tb storage?


@krth8 wrote:

 

Checked the hdd compatability list now and there is one 4tb drive listed there. could i change out all my drives to get 4x4tb?


That should work. The HCL is very old, and Netgear hasn't kept it up to date for a long time. I recommend WDC Red or Seagate Ironwolf for your new disks.  They should both work well.

 

Your NAS should end up with a 12 TB (10.9 TiB) volume.  

 

Note that your NAS does have two expansion limits:

  • a volume can't be expanded more to a size greater than 16 TiB.
  • a volume can't grow more than 8 TiB from it's starting point.

The first limit doesn't apply in your case, but the second one might.  For instance if you had 1x3TB or 2x3TB when you first installed the NAS, then you will exceed it, and the expansion will fail when you add the last disk.  If that happens, you'd need to do a factory reset with all disks in place.

 

 

 

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krth8
Aspirant

Re: NV+v2 more than 12tb storage?

Thanks for the info. Much appreciated.

The volume was built with all 4 disks at once.

so i should now easily be able to add one and one drive untill i have 16tb?

The nv+v2 is slow, but it has been good to me. I may upgrade the device a bit later on but i am curious to how long this one will live 🙂

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StephenB
Guru

Re: NV+v2 more than 12tb storage?


@krth8 wrote:


so i should now easily be able to add one and one drive untill i have 16tb?

Yes (getting a 12 TB volume). Just make sure the resync is complete before you upgrade the next disk. Also, reboot the NAS after you upgrade the second disk. You should get a prompt at the point, but reboot it even if you don't. Then wait for vertical expansion to complete before you move on to disk 3.
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krth8
Aspirant

Re: NV+v2 more than 12tb storage?

Hi,

I have now received the drive and swapped it out and resync is done.

On the readynas dashboard it recognises the hard drive as a 4tb drive but i still have the same amount of space as before.

Also, I am still getting channel 1 failure with the new drive, which makes me think it is something wrong with the firmware?

I updated the firmware to 5.3.13 before i swapped the drives.

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StephenB
Guru

Re: NV+v2 more than 12tb storage?


@krth8 wrote:


Also, I am still getting channel 1 failure with the new drive, which makes me think it is something wrong with the firmware?


Does the NAS say the volume is degraded?

 


@krth8 wrote:


On the readynas dashboard it recognises the hard drive as a 4tb drive but i still have the same amount of space as before.


This is the first 4 TB drive in the system?  If so, that is normal.

 

What size are the other drives?

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krth8
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Re: NV+v2 more than 12tb storage?

It doesent say anything. volume looks fine. I did see a thread from a while ago where a guy had the same problem but changed raid type and it stopped failing. Seeing as the new disk also gets channel 1 failed i am guessing the problem is on the NAS itself

Aah. So if would not get increased storage until i have 4x4tb? i now have 3x3tb and 1x4tb.

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StephenB
Guru

Re: NV+v2 more than 12tb storage?


@krth8 wrote:


Aah. So if would not get increased storage until i have 4x4tb? i now have 3x3tb and 1x4tb.


Storage will increase by 1 TB when you upgrade the second disk. You'll grow from 9 TB to 12 TB when all are upgraded.

 

At the end of the second upgrade (resync) you should be prompted to reboot.  If you aren't, then reboot anyway.  After that the volume size should increase.

 

It is important to make sure the volume is fully redundant before you do that, so maybe you can give us a little more info on the channel 1 errors?

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krth8
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Re: NV+v2 more than 12tb storage?

This is what the log tells me after the new disk insert.

 

Aug 18 00:37:49 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: A new disk was added to the ReadyNAS.  If multiple disks have been added, they will be processed one at a time.  Please do not remove any added disk(s) during this time.
Aug 18 01:05:31 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: RAID sync started on volume C.
Aug 18 01:05:32 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: RAID sync started on volume C.\n\n[Fri Aug 18 01:05:31 PDT 2017]
Aug 18 16:40:33 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: RAID sync finished on volume C.
Aug 18 16:40:34 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: RAID sync finished on volume C.\n\n[Fri Aug 18 16:40:21 PDT 2017]
Aug 19 06:38:09 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Detected increasing reallocated sector count on disk 1 [-1, 0]
Aug 19 06:38:09 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Reallocation event count: [-1, 0]
Aug 19 06:38:09 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Detected increasing spin retry count on disk 1 [-1, 0]
Aug 19 06:38:09 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Detected increasing pending sector count on disk 1 [-1, 0]
Aug 19 06:38:09 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Detected increasing uncorrectable errors on disk 1 [-1, 0]
Aug 19 06:38:09 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Current (temp, start_stop_cnt, power_on_hrs, power_cycle_cnt, load_cycle_cnt) = (-1, -1, -1, -1, -1)
Aug 19 06:38:09 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Detected increasing reallocated sector count on disk 1 [0, -1]
Aug 19 06:38:09 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Reallocation event count: [0, -1]
Aug 19 06:38:09 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Detected increasing spin retry count on disk 1 [0, -1]
Aug 19 06:38:09 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Detected increasing pending sector count on disk 1 [0, -1]
Aug 19 06:38:09 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Detected increasing uncorrectable errors on disk 1 [0, -1]
Aug 19 06:38:09 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Current (temp, start_stop_cnt, power_on_hrs, power_cycle_cnt, load_cycle_cnt) = (21, 9, 29, 1, 9)
Aug 19 12:07:43 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Disk failure detected.
Aug 19 12:07:43 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: If the failed disk is used in a RAID level 1, 5, or X-RAID volume, please note that volume is now unprotected, and an additional disk failure may render that volume dead.  If this disk is a part of a RAID 10 volume,your volume is still protected if more than half of the disks alive. But another failure of disks been marked may render that volume dead.  It is recommended that you replace the failed disk as soon as possible to maintain optimal protection of your volume.
Aug 19 12:07:44 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Disk failure detected.\n\nIf the failed disk is used in a RAID level 1, 5, or X-RAID volume, please note that volume is now unprotected, and an additional disk failure may render that volume dead.  If this disk is a part of a RAID 10 volume,your volume is still protected if more than half of the disks alive. But another failure of disks been marked may render that volume dead.  It is recommended that you replace the failed disk as soon as possible to maintain optimal protection of your volume.\n\n[Sat Aug 19 12:07:43 PDT 2017]
Aug 19 12:07:44 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: The disk on channel 1 has failed. The NAS will automatically shutdown in 30 minutes to prevent possible data loss resulting from additional failed drives.
Aug 19 12:07:45 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: The disk on channel 1 has failed. The NAS will automatically shutdown in 30 minutes to prevent possible data loss resulting from additional failed drives.\n\n[Sat Aug 19 12:07:44 PDT 2017]
Aug 19 12:37:45 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: The disk on channel 1 has failed. Shutting down the system to prevent possible data loss resulting from additional failed drives.
Aug 19 12:37:45 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: The disk on channel 1 has failed. Shutting down the system to prevent possible data loss resulting from additional failed drives.\n\n[Sat Aug 19 12:37:45 PDT 2017]
Aug 19 12:37:55 nas-A0-51-2C shutdown[5892]: shutting down for system halt
Aug 20 21:20:34 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: nic.agent: "nice -n 5 /usr/sbin/apache-ssl -f /etc/frontview/apache/httpd.conf" failed to start.
Aug 20 21:21:06 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: System is up.
Aug 20 21:36:25 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Failed to contact SMTP server.
Aug 20 21:36:54 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Failed to contact SMTP server.
Aug 21 20:14:45 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Detected increasing reallocated sector count on disk 2 [0, -1]
Aug 21 20:14:45 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Reallocation event count: [0, -1]
Aug 21 20:14:45 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Detected increasing spin retry count on disk 2 [0, -1]
Aug 21 20:14:45 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Detected increasing end-to-end errors on disk 2 [0, -1]
Aug 21 20:14:45 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Detected increasing command timeouts on disk 2 [0, -1]
Aug 21 20:14:45 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Detected increasing pending sector count on disk 2 [0, -1]
Aug 21 20:14:45 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Detected increasing uncorrectable errors on disk 2 [0, -1]
Aug 21 20:14:45 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Current (temp, start_stop_cnt, power_on_hrs, power_cycle_cnt, load_cycle_cnt) = (32, 9315, 20271, 346, 9789)
Aug 21 20:14:58 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Current (temp, start_stop_cnt, power_on_hrs, power_cycle_cnt, load_cycle_cnt) = (32, 9315, 20271, 346, 9789)
Aug 21 20:18:31 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Detected increasing reallocated sector count on disk 2 [0, -1]
Aug 21 20:18:31 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Reallocation event count: [0, -1]
Aug 21 20:18:31 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Detected increasing spin retry count on disk 2 [0, -1]
Aug 21 20:18:31 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Detected increasing end-to-end errors on disk 2 [0, -1]
Aug 21 20:18:31 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Detected increasing command timeouts on disk 2 [0, -1]
Aug 21 20:18:31 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Detected increasing pending sector count on disk 2 [0, -1]
Aug 21 20:18:31 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Detected increasing uncorrectable errors on disk 2 [0, -1]
Aug 21 20:18:31 nas-A0-51-2C RAIDiator: Current (temp, start_stop_cnt, power_on_hrs, power_cycle_cnt, load_cycle_cnt) = (33, 9315, 20271, 346, 9789)

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StephenB
Guru

Re: NV+v2 more than 12tb storage?

Replace disk 2 next.

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krth8
Aspirant

Re: NV+v2 more than 12tb storage?

I am wondering if all my drives start failing like this, that i instead of continuing to swap to 4tb drives which is the max of this unit, i may just as well get a new device and do 10tb drives.

 

Message 11 of 12
StephenB
Guru

Re: NV+v2 more than 12tb storage?

A newer NAS would give better performance of course.

 

But drives will fail from time to time no matter what NAS you use.  RAID will normally keep your data available, but it is not enough to keep your data safe.  

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