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Re: Wired devices cannot connect to the internet

Dtrain84
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Wired devices cannot connect to the internet

If I try to connect a device to the router via ethernet cable, whether it be a laptop or another device, I cannot connect to the internet using that wired device.


The Nighthawk app lists the wired device in the 'Device Manager' section, and shows a connection with a green light. 

Any suggestions?

Model: RAX120|Nighthawk AX12 12-Stream WiFi Router
Message 1 of 21
plemans
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Re: Wired devices cannot connect to the internet

What modem do you have? 

what firmware is on the router? 

Message 2 of 21
Dtrain84
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Re: Wired devices cannot connect to the internet

Yes, tried all of that. Issue still present. Incredibly frustrating. Perhaps the router is faulty?

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Re: Wired devices cannot connect to the internet


@Dtrain84 wrote:

Yes, tried all of that. Issue still present. Incredibly frustrating. Perhaps the router is faulty?


Be warned, the message before your reply was linkspam, with a bit of random text related to not much.

 

You would do better to answer the questions from @plemans. Without that information, it is hard to diagnose what is happening.

 

You might also like to investigate the network settings in Windows, and use the Network Troubleshooter.

 

Message 4 of 21
Dtrain84
Aspirant

Re: Wired devices cannot connect to the internet

Sorry!

 

Modem is a Netcomm ndd-0300 FTTC.

 

Router firmware is V1.2.1.22.

Message 5 of 21

Re: Wired devices cannot connect to the internet

Several  minutes spent looking for this thing in Google throws up a messy set of links, but no clear result that tells me if this is a modem or a modem/router.

 

Does it have more than one LAN port?

 

If this is an Australian NBN thing, the source of more grief here than makes sense, you might get quicker help from a local source of wisdom.

 

Whirlpool Forums

 

Message 6 of 21
Dtrain84
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Re: Wired devices cannot connect to the internet

The modem is an Australian NBN thing. However, when I use my old TP-Link router connected to the Modem, there is no problem with wired devices accessing the internet. It's all very strange. This suggests to me that there is an issue with the router.

Message 7 of 21
plemans
Guru

Re: Wired devices cannot connect to the internet

tp-link tends to tolerate double nats better. 

and saying its a nbn thing is basically saying its an "australian internet thing". Its tells us nothing. 

NBN is national broadcast network for austalian. It could be dsl, it could be fiber, it could be cable. the only thing it tells us is that you're in australia. 

Message 8 of 21
Dtrain84
Aspirant

Re: Wired devices cannot connect to the internet

I was answering the previous question as to whether it was an Australian thing. As I mentioned above, the modem is FTTC (fibre to the curb).

Message 9 of 21
plemans
Guru

Re: Wired devices cannot connect to the internet

the Netcomm ndd-0300 has its own integrated wireless from what I could find. that'd indicate it has its own routing functions and puts you in a double nat. 

https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT

 

Have you tried the router in access point mode

Message 10 of 21
Dtrain84
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Re: Wired devices cannot connect to the internet

No, I haven't tried putting the router in access mode. That's a great suggestion.

 

If I do so, how can I easily work out what the new IP address of the router will be (so I can login and change the settings back if it doesn't work)?

Message 11 of 21
antinode
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Re: Wired devices cannot connect to the internet

> [...] I cannot connect to the internet using that wired device.

 

   What's the IP address of "that wired device"?  (Is "that wired
device" using DHCP to get its IP parameters?)  Of the WAN/Internet
interface of the RAX120?  (ADVANCED > ADVANCED Home : Internet Port :
Internet IP Address)


   "cannot" is not a useful problem description.  It does not say what
you did.  It does not say what happened when you did it.  As usual,
showing actual actions (commands) with their actual results (error
messages, LED indicators, ...) can be more helpful than vague
descriptions or interpretations.

 

   A bad (manual?) DNS configuration can cause various problems even
when basic Internet connectivity is good, for example.


> tp-link tends to tolerate double nats better.

 

   Or, there is no double-NAT here.

 


> the Netcomm ndd-0300 has its own integrated wireless from what I could
> find.

 

   Thanks for the helpful link.  I know nothing, but I got a different
impression from:

 

      https://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco2/documents/Connect-Kits/res/1930120-fttc-troubleshooting-...


   Look for "A compatible Wi-Fi gateway".  But documentation does seem
sparse.

 


> [...] That's a great suggestion.

 

   Perhaps.  My money would be elsewhere.  (But what do I know?)

 

> [...] how can I easily work out what the new IP address of the router
> will be [...]

 

   When configured as a wireless access point, a typical Netgear router
will, by default ("Get dynamically from existing router"), get its
new/different LAN IP address using DHCP (typically from the DHCP server
in the main router).  If you want it to get some specific (memorable?)
address, then you can normally reserve an address for it on that DHCP
server.


   Of course, if the NDD-300 does not include a router, then the
RAX120-as-WAP would try to get its address (et al.) from your ISP, which
would be unlikely to work well.

 

   Visit http://netgear.com/support , put in your model number, and look
for Documentation.  Get the User Manual (at least).  Read.  Look for
"Set Up the Router as a WiFi Access Point".

 

> [...] (so I can login and change the settings back if it doesn't
> work)?

 

   The Reset button can be useful in such situations.

Message 12 of 21
Dtrain84
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Re: Wired devices cannot connect to the internet

I have attempted to set up the RAX120 router as an access point and it was unsuccessful as none of my devices could connect to the router. I ended up having to do a hard reset of the router.



Message 13 of 21

Re: Wired devices cannot connect to the internet


@Dtrain84 wrote:

I have attempted to set up the RAX120 router as an access point and it was unsuccessful as none of my devices could connect to the router. I ended up having to do a hard reset of the router.




There's a lot of flailing around going on here. I'd go back to basics.

 

How about talking to people who are deep into NBN things?

 

ISP modem? - Modems/Routers

 

among other discussions here:

 

Whirlpool Forums

 

Did you say which ISP you are with?

 

 

Message 14 of 21

Re: Wired devices cannot connect to the internet


@Dtrain84 wrote:

I was answering the previous question as to whether it was an Australian thing. As I mentioned above, the modem is FTTC (fibre to the curb).


Don't you love it when telecoms companies use the same initials to describe different things?

 

Here in the UK FTTC is "fibre to the cabinet".

 

At least we agree on the spelling of fibre.

 

Message 15 of 21
Dtrain84
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Re: Wired devices cannot connect to the internet


@michaelkenward wrote:


There's a lot of flailing around going on here. I'd go back to basics.

 

How about talking to people who are deep into NBN things?


How is it an NBN thing when another cheaper and inferior router works just fine?

 

I came here to seek the assistance of Netgear equipment experts.

Message 16 of 21
antinode
Guru

Re: Wired devices cannot connect to the internet

> I have attempted to set up the RAX120 router as an access point and it
> was unsuccessful [...]

 

   At least one of us is not amazed.  Still a bunch of pending
questions.  Look for "?", above.  (But, regarding "attempted" and
"unsuccessful", see "not a useful problem description [...]", above.)

 

> [...] I cannot connect to the internet using that wired device.

 

   Does that mean that wireless devices _can_ get Internet access, or
that you haven't tried a wireless device, or what?  Vague problem
descriptions tempt readers to make assumptions.  Often poor ones.

 

   If wireless devices work, and a wired device does not, but the wired
device is shown in the router's Attached Devices report, then I'd tend
to blame the client device rather than the router.

 


> There's a lot of flailing around going on here. I'd go back to basics.


   There is, and so would I, but my definition of "basics" starts with a
less ambiguous problem description, and answers to the pending
questions.  Taking the same sloppy problem description to different
forums is not how I would proceed.

Message 17 of 21
Dtrain84
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Re: Wired devices cannot connect to the internet

All devices, when connected wirelessly to the router, are able to connect to the internet.

Any device connected to the router through ethernet is not able to access the interent through a browser. Each of the wired devices are shown in the router's Attached Devices report.

I have tried an ethernet connection with my iMac, Macbook, Macbook Pro, and Dell laptop (each of which have no problem when connected wirelessly).

Each of these devices are able to access the internet when they are connected via ethernet to my old TP-Link Archer VR1600v router.

Message 18 of 21

Re: Wired devices cannot connect to the internet


@Dtrain84 wrote:

@michaelkenward wrote:


There's a lot of flailing around going on here. I'd go back to basics.

 

How about talking to people who are deep into NBN things?


How is it an NBN thing when another cheaper and inferior router works just fine?

 

I came here to seek the assistance of Netgear equipment experts.


Your call, but that's not always the best approach.

 

These issues are often a subtle mixture of the equipment (Netgear in this case) and the (unknown) Internet service provider.

 

In this case, we are talking about NBN. That is a rat's nest of many ISPs with different network technologies.

 

From the message traffic here, we get plenty of problems from NBN users. But they vanish as soon as they get their problems sorted. Or maybe they just give up and jump ship.

 

I'd guess that a decent NBN forum would have more Netgear knowledgeable users that there are NBN experts here. Let's face, you are in Oz and seem to have gaps in your understanding of how NBN works.

 

And as you can see, even the "Netgear experts" are at odds when it comes to different brands of router. I linked to an information source about all things NBN.

 

But by all means feel free to continue to flail around.

 

Or do as suggested and deal with outstanding questions.

 

Did you say which ISP you are with?

 

There is no such thing as too much information.

 

Message 19 of 21
antinode
Guru

Re: Wired devices cannot connect to the internet

> All devices, [...]

 

> Any device [...]

 

   Ok.

 

> If wireless devices work, and a wired device does not, but the wired
> device is shown in the router's Attached Devices report, then I'd tend
> to blame the client device rather than the router.

 

   Still true.  With my weak psychic powers, I still can't see the
network configuration on any of those wired devices.

 

> [...] Each of these devices are able [...]

 

   Can't see the network configuration on any of those wired devices
when they're connected to that router, either.

 

> [...] Still a bunch of pending questions.  Look for "?", above. [...]


   Still waiting on that.

 

   There could be a problem with the router, but without more
information than "not able", there's little which anyone can do beyond
blind guessing.  (Or worse.)

Message 20 of 21
Dtrain84
Aspirant

Re: Wired devices cannot connect to the internet

ISP is iiNet.

 

IP addresses of wired devices are 192.168.1.17 and 192.168.1.20

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