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VistaGrande
May 18, 2020Tutor
Orbi RBR50 Non responsive, won't factory reset
After two years of working flawlessly my Orbi RBR50 router stopped working. I have two satellites RBS mdels connected to it.
The power light is on and it is green.
I tried to cycle the power - did not work.
I tried to factory reset by inserting a paperclip into the reset button - the light stays green, never turning to amber.
I tried the 30-second reset press + pull power with clip still inserted + 30 seconds reset press - did not work.
I thought maybe a firmware update failed / corrputed.
The RBR50 router was set up for automatic firmware installs. The latest firmware to download is marked March of 2020 (it is May 18 2020 as of this writing). So I'm thinking it updated more than a month ago.
Any other ideas?
Thank you!
46 Replies
- plemansGuru - Experienced User
You might need to try tftp to recovery it.
https://kb.netgear.com/000059634/How-to-upload-firmware-to-a-NETGEAR-router-using-Windows-TFTP
just make sure you enable tftp
https://www.thewindowsclub.com/enable-tftp-windows-10
and here's a video walk through.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9DLrLQrpaw
and if that doesn't work, you can try using nmrpflash
https://github.com/jclehner/nmrpflashAppreciate the quick reply.
Unfortunately my PC doesn't even see the Orbi RBR50 when directly attached via ethernet cable.
Network Adapter settings show "Network Cable Unplugged" -- see attached image.
I tried downloaded the binary for nrmpflash, but get an error when running it: "The code execution cannot proceed because wpcap.dll was not found".
I need to do some sort of factory reset with the Orbi RBR50 so that it comes up and I can re-configure.
Any other ideas?
- plemansGuru - Experienced UserIt might not "see" the connection. its why you're setting static addresses. Did you try the tftp? if anything is missed, it can not work
- TomHarkerInitiate
Heya,
I have the same problem, recently got a 2nd hand RBK50 set to upgrade from my perfectly good RBR40.
When powered up both the RBR50 and RBS50 have solid green power LED, and soild white ring lights.
I'm concentrating on the RBR50 for now to get that running first, I've tried a factory reset, a 30-30-30 reset and flashing the firmware back to v2.2.1.212 over TFTP (this fails halfway through the upload).
After all this I now have a flashing green power led and a solid white ring on top of the RBR50, and a deep sense of frustration!
Not sure where to go from here??
Having exactly the same issue. All working fine and then suddenly dead to the world. Solid green on power but no response to reset attempts. Very frustraiting.
Has anyone recovered from this or am I dreaming to think that there is a way to fix this very expensive brick?
- FURRYe38Guru - Experienced User
Try this:
https://kb.netgear.com/000059634/How-to-upload-firmware-to-a-NETGEAR-router-using-Windows-TFTP
Need to press the reset button for 30 seconds then release, then it send to PUT the command and upload the FW.
I had a problem on a Windows 10 PC where this didn't work to use TFTP, so I switched to a WIndows 7 PC and the TFTP worked.I try the tftp and get an error with the -i option flag. Mine is a Mac and no Windows machine to work with.
The fact that I never get to a flashing yellow/amber power light is also concerning.
- stilesfamilyInitiate
I have this exact same issue. Any other ideas on how to fix it???
- FURRYe38Guru - Experienced User
So you can't access the RBRs web page after a 15 second press of the reset button then release?
Try the TFTP option mentioned in this thread?
stilesfamily wrote:I have this exact same issue. Any other ideas on how to fix it???
- CrimpOnGuru - Experienced User
I have used TFTP several (stressful) times. It seems as much an "art" as it does a "science".
My impression is that there is a magic window of time during which the router will accept a TFTP connection. Maybe only a few seconds. I had numerous attempts fail (0 blocks transmitted), and then one succeed.
- NikaBoobooInitiate
L E M O N - wasted massive amount of time on all suggested solutions and it's DEAD! Had multipe GOs with NG support and there is a update - it's a DEAD LEMON
Sadly, the only way to get it back is by sending the unit to Netgear, paying the shipping and then their service fee. Netgear takes no accountability for the failure to properly develop and test firmwares.
I have a second RBK that is my backup (until recently I had a second home that I outfitted before learning the Netgear lesson). When my current one dies I will move to the other one until that one dies. Then I will be off to a new company.
Add me to the list of customers with teh same problem - happened to me last night. System had been working without problem - 4am started receiving text messages from various devices of no internet. RBR50 - not addressable via IP address, nor Orbi mobile app. No WiFi ssid being broadcast. Modem and ISP internet confirmed not an issue. Power light stay green and does not change with attempt to factory reset via all methods described in the community posts. Of course out of 90 day warranty (is that really a warranty - 90 days?). Tried calling Netgear support - they wanted to try and troubleshoot via connecting to the router - they did not quite understand that there was no connection for them to connect to but they did try and sell an extend warranty - anyway did not have the time to continue on the call but might try again later. In the meantime seems that it is time to look for another router based on what I see posted. My back up Cisco is working fine so at least could continue to work today (and post this).
- FURRYe38Guru - Experienced User
Try the recovery mentioned in previous post.
I would contact a forum moderator to see what your options are. Let them know what happened:
RonRolfsen wrote:
Add me to the list of customers with teh same problem - happened to me last night. System had been working without problem - 4am started receiving text messages from various devices of no internet. RBR50 - not addressable via IP address, nor Orbi mobile app. No WiFi ssid being broadcast. Modem and ISP internet confirmed not an issue. Power light stay green and does not change with attempt to factory reset via all methods described in the community posts. Of course out of 90 day warranty (is that really a warranty - 90 days?). Tried calling Netgear support - they wanted to try and troubleshoot via connecting to the router - they did not quite understand that there was no connection for them to connect to but they did try and sell an extend warranty - anyway did not have the time to continue on the call but might try again later. In the meantime seems that it is time to look for another router based on what I see posted. My back up Cisco is working fine so at least could continue to work today (and post this).
Thank you for the suggestions of trying the previous post. I tried both and unfortunately neither works. For the loading of the firmware via TFTP the error is "Connect Request Failed" - the power LED never starts/turns amber and never flashes. Using the nmrpflash the result is Error: Ethernet cable is unplugged. Seems this device does not want to connect and be recognized. Thanks again for the help.
- lrkell01Aspirant
Same problem on my Orbi that's a little over 2 years old. Technical support says its a hardware failure and that I need to buy a new one. With such a lousy quality product, I surely won't buy a Netgear product again.
- FURRYe38Guru - Experienced User
Good luck then.
- wwlen1GuideSome people on Reddit are having some luck recovering their router by disassembling their RBR50 (only a few screws) and hooking up to their router using a USB to TTL (I think) cable.
This takes a little bit more effort than I'm willing to put in.
My suggestion is to by a used RBR40 for about $35 or used RBR50 for about $60.
Then if you get around to restoring the RBR50, you can convert it to a satellite.
- noktuloAspirant
Just wated to chime in and say my parents' RBR50 has been bricked as well. It mysteriously stopped working, and they could not factory reset it. No matter how long they kept the reset button pressed, the power light stayed steady green. I thought they must be doing it wrong, but now I'm here and it's true, can't get it to factory reset no matter what I do. I convinced them to spend almost $400 on this system because it was supposed to be rock-solid, so it's really disappointing to have it bricked by an update pushed by Netgear.
- FURRYe38Guru - Experienced User
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-RBR50-Non-responsive-won-t-factory-reset/m-p/2170489/highlight/true#M129232
1. Take of the power for 10 seconds
2. Paperclip the resetbutton
3. power on
4. it starts blinking with Green - Orange and then red.
5. once red release and its resetting.Or try this:
https://kb.netgear.com/000059634/How-to-upload-firmware-to-a-NETGEAR-router-using-Windows-TFTP
Need to press the reset button for 30 seconds then release, then it send to PUT the command and upload the FW.
I had a problem on a Windows 10 PC where this didn't work to use TFTP, so I switched to a WIndows 7 PC and the TFTP worked.
Try nmrpflash:
https://github.com/jclehner/nmrpflash
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-RBR50-seems-stuck-in-boot-loop/m-p/2010016/highlight/true#M107358
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Is-my-13-month-old-RBR50-bricked/m-p/2011090/highlight/true#M107511
noktulo wrote:
Just wated to chime in and say my parents' RBR50 has been bricked as well. It mysteriously stopped working, and they could not factory reset it. No matter how long they kept the reset button pressed, the power light stayed steady green. I thought they must be doing it wrong, but now I'm here and it's true, can't get it to factory reset no matter what I do. I convinced them to spend almost $400 on this system because it was supposed to be rock-solid, so it's really disappointing to have it bricked by an update pushed by Netgear.
- noktuloAspirantWe already tried all that. They now have a Google Nest Wifi and I’m done recommending Netgear products.
- FootX61Aspirant
After a little more than 2 years, same problem. For the price, what a shame Netgear...
- FURRYe38Guru - Experienced User
https://kb.netgear.com/000059634/How-to-upload-firmware-to-a-NETGEAR-router-using-Windows-TFTP
Need to press the reset button for 30 seconds then release, then it send to PUT the command and upload the FW.
Make sure you enable tftp: https://www.thewindowsclub.com/enable-tftp-windows-10
Video walk through using a tftp client. Use the built in one for windows 10 though. the video is more of an example of how its done:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9DLrLQrpaw
I had a problem on a Windows 10 PC where this didn't work to use TFTP, so I switched to a WIndows 7 PC and the TFTP worked.
Mac TFTP: https://www.petenetlive.com/KB/Article/0001247
Try nmrpflash:
https://github.com/jclehner/nmrpflash
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-RBR50-seems-stuck-in-boot-loop/m-p/2010016/highlight/true#M107358
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Is-my-13-month-old-RBR50-bricked/m-p/2011090/highlight/true#M107511Bricked Orbi Recovery:
https://www.snbforums.com/threads/custom-firmware-build-for-orbi-rbk50-rbk53-rbr50-rbs50-v-9-2-5-1-18sf-hw-v-9-2-5-1-18-1sf-hw.64414/page-3#post-590839
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Is-my-13-month-old-RBR50-bricked/td-p/2009904/jump-to/first-unread-messageIf any of this fails, then the RBR needs to be replaced.
FootX61 wrote:
After a little more than 2 years, same problem. For the price, what a shame Netgear...