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AmitR
Mar 23, 2018NETGEAR Employee Retired
Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18
Our teams are still working through the issues, but I wanted to provide a quick update on OrbiOS 2.1. We usually wait to release our software until it's available across all Orbi product lines, but in a departure from our normal processes, we’re going to the release BETA software for our products in a staggered manner. The first wave to be released are only for the RBR50 and RBS50, which is used in the RBK50 and RBK53 (Costco) kits. If you have a kit that includes a different hardware product (including RBK52W, RBK40 series or RBK30 series) or a RBK50 or RBK53 with an add-on satellite (RBS40, RBW30), please hang tight. We’re not quite done with it yet, but will update this thread when it’s ready.
Edit for clarity: This release supports both Circle & Ethernet backhaul
Edit2: Updated with the 2nd wave of firmware for RBR40, RBS40, RBR20 and RBS20. This supports the following SKUs: RBK40, RBK43, RBK44, RBK20, RBK22, RBK23.
Edit3: Updated for RBW30, to support RBK30, RBK33, RBK52W, and others
We’re not yet going to push this release this for auto-firmware upgrade, and will let you know before we do. If you have any questions, feel free to reach out to Support.
Rel Notes:
- Fixes issues where Internet access is not available on some devices, but available on others.
- Fixes an issue where Satellites get disconnected from Router
- Provides protection for the MDNS packet flood issue
- Addresses an issue where websites set to unmanaged are unreachable
- Multiple other connectivity & RF improvements
BETA MR 2.1.3 software can be found here:
RBR50: http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&i=rFfsb14M2q
RBS50: http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&i=0UBXh9aus6
RBR40: http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&i=dnNl6nqBSj
RBS40: http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&i=FEaFlGNCuW
RBW30: http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&i=x990UeDEdo
RBR20: http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&i=IOMUioMSLU
RBS20: http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&i=S5JDrBEG2f
How to do a manual firmware upgrade: https://kb.netgear.com/31573/How-do-I-manually-upgrade-firmware-on-my-Orbi-Satellite
Orbi Product Team
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- FURRYe38Guru - Experienced User
- GelissenAspirant
The link on the first page of this topic for the RBS40 BETA MR 2.1.3 firmware doesn't work.
RBS40: http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&i=SoxDgoIHIg
Does anyone have the right link?
Thanks!
- FURRYe38Guru - Experienced User
The 40 series files were removed for unknown reasons. You might contact NG support and ask for the v2.1.3.6 beta files if they will give them to you.
Gelissen wrote:The link on the first page of this topic for the RBS40 BETA MR 2.1.3 firmware doesn't work.
RBS40: http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&i=SoxDgoIHIg
Does anyone have the right link?
Thanks!
2.1.4.10 available through automatic update.
- Sdiver2489Apprentice
wifi_en wrote:2.1.4.10 available through automatic update.
I don't see anything yet when I go to the firmware update page. Figures too because I just rolled back to 2.1.2.18 yesterday
- OutGolfnGuideWanted to note in this main thread the many issues with Apple HomeKit currently on V 2.1.3.4 and it’s very very bad with iHome Smart plugs. They are constantly switching from unavailable every few minutes.
I know another user Bill started a separate thread and hopefully Netgear has this Apple HomeKit issue fixed/addresses in the next update.
It was not an issue on any of the previous firmwares but V 2.1.3.4 has triggered it for many people with Apple HomeKit in their homes!- turns2stoneApprentice
OutGolfn wrote:
Wanted to note in this main thread the many issues with Apple HomeKit currently on V 2.1.3.4 and it’s very very bad with iHome Smart plugs. They are constantly switching from unavailable every few minutes.
I know another user Bill started a separate thread and hopefully Netgear has this Apple HomeKit issue fixed/addresses in the next update.
It was not an issue on any of the previous firmwares but V 2.1.3.4 has triggered it for many people with Apple HomeKit in their homes!I have several HomeKit devices, including 3 outside, that would have a hard time staying connected. Then I got the RBS50Y, and now no more issues. I think these HomeKit devices just need a super-strong signal. If they lose Wi-Fi for even a second, it's like impossible for them to reconnect. So try moving a satellite closer?
AmitR wrote:
BETA MR 2.1.3 software can be found here:
RBR40: http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&i=NWHSwvM06n
That link does not work, or no longer works, whichever.
2.1.2.18 + 2.1.2.2 (RBW30) has been a nightmare.. is there a newer version I can try somewhere, or should I look for an older version?
- FURRYe38Guru - Experienced User
It was here however the file was removed:
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533584/highlight/true#M26234
Your mest option would be to contact NG support or PM one of the Moderators and ask for v2.1.3.x version for the 40 series model.
UnhappyOrbiUser wrote:AmitR wrote:
BETA MR 2.1.3 software can be found here:
RBR40: http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&i=NWHSwvM06n
That link does not work, or no longer works, whichever.
2.1.2.18 + 2.1.2.2 (RBW30) has been a nightmare.. is there a newer version I can try somewhere, or should I look for an older version?
- b1ggjoeApprentice
Hey Everyone,
I have a RBK50 system that has been performing flawlessly since the day I installed it. I'm using the following Firmware: V2.1.2.18.
Does this Firmware support Ethernet-Backhaul? I haven't tried it yet, so just wanted to ask before I do.
Thanks!
BJ
- FURRYe38Guru - Experienced User
V2.1.3.4 supported ethernet back how. Works well. Its recommended after you update to this verions of FW, do a factory reset on both router and satellite(s) then setup from scratch. Some major changes in this version so it needs a clean slate.
b1ggjoe wrote:Hey Everyone,
I have a RBK50 system that has been performing flawlessly since the day I installed it. I'm using the following Firmware: V2.1.2.18.
Does this Firmware support Ethernet-Backhaul? I haven't tried it yet, so just wanted to ask before I do.
Thanks!
BJ
I am having issues with connecting to a VPN. I usually connect to my work VPN using CISCO AnyConnect - I have been able to do it, but I think it was prior to the update. THoughts?
- JustMakeItWorkApprentice
Didn't have any issues with AnyConnect VPN on a Mac when connecting to a corporate network.
- FURRYe38Guru - Experienced User
What is the Mfr and model# of the ISP modem?
If you updated FW v2.1.3.4, was a factory reset and set up performed? if not, please do this and set up from scratch.
wegunterjr wrote:I am having issues with connecting to a VPN. I usually connect to my work VPN using CISCO AnyConnect - I have been able to do it, but I think it was prior to the update. THoughts?
- turns2stoneApprentice
What are the chances that an upcoming 2.2.x firmware will improve wired backhaul? Because I cannot get this to work, unless the satellites are directly connected to the Orbi router. And my switch/cabling in between the router/satellites has never caused any problems in the past 5 years.
Maybe an even more important question: how much improvement have you guys seen going from RBR50->RBS50 Wi-Fi backhaul performance to wired? My Orbis are max 40 feet from each other. Most of my iPhones/iPads/laptops have up to 866Mbps antennas/performance. I can easily get 300-500Mbps (I do have 1Gbps internet service). Going from the 1733Mbps (real world 800Mbps throughput max?) backhaul, to wired Cat6, is it realistic to expect 400-600Mbps Wi-Fi performance on devices that support 866Mbps?
- FURRYe38Guru - Experienced User
Not really, you maybe already hitting the limits of your wifi devices. Just because they can connect at 866Mb doesn't mean the data can flow that fast as well. Doesn't work like that. Connection rates differ from data flow rates. The Connection rates are just connection rate speeds between the devices and wireless AP/router only. Mfrs have different designes and depending on chips used and implemented, data rates will differ and some are limited by the chips they use or implement. Honestly, is 866Mb data rate really needed on a phone, stop and think, what are you doing one thing at a time on ap phone that would need that kind of bandwidth? FB? text? voice? Nothing on a phone needs that kind of data rate. Streaming compressed video even doesn't need that kind of data rate. Theres many connection however on phones, apps and browsers and all this combine needs some bandwidth. That were the connection rate comes in. Wider connetion rate, more app, video and browser data can share the pipe.
My current v2.1.3.x FW has working wired back haul. Zero issues so far.
turns2stone wrote:What are the chances that an upcoming 2.2.x firmware will improve wired backhaul? Because I cannot get this to work, unless the satellites are directly connected to the Orbi router. And my switch/cabling in between the router/satellites has never caused any problems in the past 5 years.
Maybe an even more important question: how much improvement have you guys seen going from RBR50->RBS50 Wi-Fi backhaul performance to wired? My Orbis are max 40 feet from each other. Most of my iPhones/iPads/laptops have up to 866Mbps antennas/performance. I can easily get 300-500Mbps (I do have 1Gbps internet service). Going from the 1733Mbps (real world 800Mbps throughput max?) backhaul, to wired Cat6, is it realistic to expect 400-600Mbps Wi-Fi performance on devices that support 866Mbps?
- turns2stoneApprentice
FURRYe38 wrote:Not really, you maybe already hitting the limits of your wifi devices. Just because they can connect at 866Mb doesn't mean the data can flow that fast as well. Doesn't work like that. Connection rates differ from data flow rates. The Connection rates are just connection rate speeds between the devices and wireless AP/router only. Mfrs have different designes and depending on chips used and implemented, data rates will differ and some are limited by the chips they use or implement. Honestly, is 866Mb data rate really needed on a phone, stop and think, what are you doing one thing at a time on ap phone that would need that kind of bandwidth? FB? text? voice? Nothing on a phone needs that kind of data rate. Streaming compressed video even doesn't need that kind of data rate. Theres many connection however on phones, apps and browsers and all this combine needs some bandwidth. That were the connection rate comes in. Wider connetion rate, more app, video and browser data can share the pipe.
My current v2.1.3.x FW has working wired back haul. Zero issues so far.
All fair points and I understand about theoretical maximums and other factors. I guess I'm more interested in getting wired backhaul to work because I spend a fair amount of effort putting an Ethernet drop to my satellite locations. Also, I'm just trying to achieve the most consistent performance possible, which I assume Ethernet backhaul would provide.
Considering that I can get a satellite to connect via Ethernet backhaul when directly connected to the LAN ports on the RBR50, do you have any final tips for getting it to work before I give up for a while? I've tried establishing the connection directly to the RBR50, then powering off the RBS50 and moving to its real home, but no luck. I've tried (I think) every combination of power cycling the RBS50 with/without the Ethernet cable plugged in.
- UlairiLuminary
I've now had one week on the new firmware and my RBK50 has been rock solid. I did a factory reset (which also fixed a speed bottleneck problem in the RBR50) after the upgrade to V2.1.3.4.
I can't say the same about the RBW30, however. That continues to cause disconnects (see this thread) and I've had to turn it off. (of course, it could be the hardware....)
So '10 out of 10' for V.2.1.3.4. (RBR50 and RBS50)
And '0 out of 10' for V2.1.3.6 (RBW30)
- Kaio85Aspirant
Hi,
The links are dead :(
Can you please fix them.
RBR40: http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&i=NWHSwvM06n
RBS40: http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&i=SoxDgoIHIg
It would be nice to test the new firmware because the wifi drops with my ios devices are annoying ;)
Thank you
Hi,
in the german community has someone the firmware 2.2.X.X
Look:
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-RBK50-mit-Firmware-2-1-3-4/m-p/1552964#M1135
Possible the team will open this beta firmware;
lg
Juergen from Austria
- RogerSCVirtuoso
Working really well again here in AP mode, stable on v2.1.3.4. Have various clients, iPads, iPhones, Android phone and tablet, TV's, laptop, desktops, T-Mobile CellSpot extender, and so on, and have had no problems with clients. Had a few problems with 2.1.2.18, but none with 2.1.3.4.
I just hope that Netgear can keep putting out stable firmware, since auto-update to the latest version pretty much ties my hands when it comes to staying on the latest version that worked for me. I really wish that wasn't the case, but I feel like I need a backup for the Orbi, since I never know when Netgear's going to screw up, and I have no defense for that unless I have a backup. It would be really helpful if one could temporarily disable auto-update in case of incompatible clients and/or firmware problems.
- I definitely think this version is less stable on older orbis.
I managed to capture a Oops kernel crash shame netgear dont have support that wants feedback or pre beta community testers so we could help fix issues. I'm sticking with old much more stable firmware.- RogerSCVirtuoso
diarmuidma wrote:
I definitely think this version is less stable on older orbis.
I managed to capture a Oops kernel crash shame netgear dont have support that wants feedback or pre beta community testers so we could help fix issues. I'm sticking with old much more stable firmware.My Orbi was purchased back in 10/2016. Doing fine on 2.1.3.4 after about 1.5 years. Is that old enough *smile*? Anyways, I agree about Beta testing firmware. I've seen that Netgear does that with people that are having problems, but I don't know how much Beta firmware testing they do with people that aren't currently having problems. Seems like that would be a good thing to do as well, to catch oncoming problems before those problems are auto-updated onto all our routers. I, for one, would be happy to Beta test new firmware. It's in my interest to do that, and I enjoy Beta testing.
When will there be a new firmware?
This piece of **bleep** just isn't working
(yes I treid it all several times all configs multiple resets)
FURRYe38 wrote:You might contact NG support and ask for an RMA, you may have bad HW that FW can't fix.
Planetom wrote:When will there be a new firmware?
This piece of **bleep** just isn't working
(yes I treid it all several times all configs multiple resets)
I will echo what FURRYe38 is stating. I had a lot of problems and just received a new satellite from Netgear, via RMA. I'm hoping it was a hardware issue. All of my issues seemed to stem from the satellite itself and not the router (ie. I could unplug the satellite and not have any issues). The next week or two will be the deciding factor.