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mrob
Feb 11, 2020Guide
Nighthawk Mesh MK62 Dropping Internet Connection
I recently replaced my old router with this setup and the internet connection keeps dropping. Getting a wifi error "No Internet Connection." The wifi signal is strong but the internet connection randomly drops and doesn't come back until I reboot the router. Happens regardless of how close or far I am from the router and/or the satellite. Anyone lese experiencing this? Thanks
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- Andrew2215AspirantVery frustrating that my devices (windows, iPhone and linux) keep dropping internet connection randomly, even though the WiFi connection is consistent. The Android works fine.
I just set this up yesterday so firmware was just updated and this is happening when the devices are all in the same room if the house, no more than 20 feet from the main router.
Any help would be helpful.- mjcalabreseApprenticeAndrew2215 - this happens on the MR60 too? I was thinking of swapping the two devices but I need a second Ethernet cable (to connect to the cable modem). I cannot move the modem.
What I was seeing up to this weekend was the MS60 is changing 5.0 GHz channels from what I have set on the MR60. I changed the MR60 into the lower channels now (40) and its been “sort of” more stable.
I still want to blame this on my DIRECTV HS17 (Genie2)’s Wireless Video Bridge, but I doubt we all have this same issue too. I have AT&T swapping out my last C61W box next week to try to eliminate that as an interference issue.- Andrew2215Aspirant@MJCalbrese. I have tried everything including sync changes and channel combinations. It refuses to behave with any except my Samsung
Unless anyone from Netgear product suport helps fix this, this is going back tonight and I am formally letting Costco and Amazon know that this is a faulty equipment and should be sold with a warning.
- lucasjohnstonAspirant
Having the same issue - wifi keeps dropping off randomly, have to reconnect. It's a bit tedious.
Earlier today my mac started complaining there was no wifi too but all other devices were fine, almost as if someone had turned off access (checked the app, they hadn't). Only got it a couple days back from Amazon, am considering returning it to get an Eero or other mesh system 😞
- HackedReactorAspirant
So I ended up returning this router mesh system back to Amazon and picked up the Google Nest Wifi, which has been pretty solid so far. Google store had a two piece set for 260. I wanted to stick out with this Nighthawk product because of the feature and configuration abilities but the drops made it frustrating. It was good over the weekend and then the connection started dropping again. I wanted to give it a chance but my parents were complaining so I went with Google, even though its a bit pricier.
I would check out Google Nest, its more of a consumer product with not that much configuration options but it does the job and fast upload and download speeds.
- rukpatAspirantI am going to do the same it is piece of crap.
So frustrated, on a one hour con call it drops connection for about 10 to 20 seconds above 3 to 4 times.- SpikemustangAspirant
I agree, I am at the end of my rope with it. Thankfully I bought it through Costco so they generally will take back anything with or without a box. This seems like due to the lack of inaction on Netgear's part, and the repeated suggestion of turning off the very thing that most everyone was buying this for as a solution, its broaching on class action lawsuit territory. Who knows how many people bought this, encountered the same issues, given just horrible customer support for it, told to shut off the whole reason the product stood out for as a fix, has not corrected the issue since its release and from all outwards appearances has no intention of doing so, and waited and waited that they are not outside of a return window to get their money back and now have a paper weight that is next to useless so are just out the money. Mine now, just drops the satellites completely about every two days and I have to reboot the router and it may or may not pick them back up and then requires a couple reboots is really pissing me off since it drops the connections to tvs that use the satellites. Then compound that with the fact any PDA device if you change rooms it immediately loses the internet connection, and I either have to restart the device, or again reboot the router to get it to pick it back up again.
As long as I have been working with computers and routers I have never seen such a pile of garbage as this is. It literally appears that this was massively rushed to market to "get an edge" and screw the customer on fixiing it or even ensuring in the first place that it actually functioned was the goal in order to boost share value or gain market, which again seems like false advertising and and fraud. This could easily fall under Defective Product, False or Misleading Advertising class actions, but just general Consumer Fraud seems more apparent. Netgear has advertised this product with features that do not work, they have failed repeatedly to address the issue of the defective equipment, and all they have offered was turning off the very features that they advertised the product as having. I am filing a complaint with my state on it just so its on records. No one should be having to deal with this issue for months on end with no fix for it or even a hint as to a fix. We all basically were scammed into buying something that was not and cannot be provided.
- SMontesdeOcaAspirant
Hello, I've raised two tickets for 2 of the major incidents i have with my MK62 router and satellite mesh system.
#43021438 and 43040516
Support asked me to close the latter one and have it merged in the first one. I raised the ticket 7/6, and only feedback i have gotten is. What language do you want to use ... i responded ... then another week and they asked if i had done a factory reset ... i did the factory reset and responded back. And now almost a week and a half and no response. In almost a month only "what language", and "have you done a factory reset? ... as question by the way."
Can Christian or someone from Netgear that actively respond on this topic help me escalate? my main two issues are the constant disconnections from devices, regardless of iOS, Android, Win10 and the other topic is that airplay is not working properly, devices can't "see" or find each other to work with, for music streaming, or sharing screen.
When i bought this system 2 months ago, it first upgraded to .92, then i upgraded some weeks after to .94 and everything worked fine, but when upgrading to .98 things started to get severe.
As a side question, has anyone seen a new upgrade? this morning i logged on and while .98 version is still stated as the latest version, a new 5.102 version is outhere on the site. Has it been tried by someone? why is it not shown as the latest version?
Thanks,
- mjcalabreseApprentice
SMontesdeOcaI do not see a 1.0.5.102 version of firmware for the MK62 on the <https://www.netgear.com/support/download/> site. I thought to myself, "No, I checked before I boxed it all up yesterday".
I just found the firmware by entering the MS60 product. There are links to both the MR60 and MS60 in here: https://kb.netgear.com/000062170/MR60-MS60-Firmware-Version-1-0-5-102
MR60: http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/MK62/MR60-V1.0.5.102_2.0.44.zip
MS60: http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/MK62/MS60-V1.0.5.102_2.0.44.zip
- SMontesdeOcaAspirant
Hi mjcalabrese, yep, while not directly associated as the latest upgrade, it is shown some lines below what appears to be the current vesion (98).
Have you, or anyone tried it? I'm just about to give it a try ... before 98 it was all smiles and all ok with my mesh system. As soon as i upgraded to 98, boom, daily disconnections and as some posted earlier ... I'm starting to be a "persona non grata" around the house! :D.
Will wait a bit and see/read if anyone else tried it, and give it a try.
Thanks,
- ddp922Initiate
I'm having the same issue as well.
I just got off the phone with tech support , I was bounced betweeen 3 people and it was real painful. I wish I fond this thread before I bought this system. Best Buy really is pushing these and all the people said it's a great system blah blah blah and it works flawlessly at home.
Netgear tech support really needs to "up their" game. I also left like their support is outsourced to India which is based on the 3 people I have talked with, but maybe coincidence they all had an Indian accent? Anyways 1.5 hrs (mostly which was on hold).
I just hooked back up my spectrum router and pinged my gateway and its 1ms vs 5ms so its a big difference. My speeds have also shot backup to 350-400 vs 120-150. If your in the business to loose money then these guys are doing a great job. I feel real bad for all of you who can't return, but I would dispute this with your credit card company ASAP.
- canb_guyAspirant
as above with issues...... Firmware v1.0.5.102, MK62 and seems to disconnect certain devices still. Just before I typed this, I could log into the mesh setup on my phone connected to the wifi (Samsung S20+) so AC Wifi. but my Laptop with Killer Wifi AC it rufused to connect, but 30 minutes prior it was fine. Less than 24 hrs since I had previously rebooted it. This system $449 in Australia is not fit for purpose.
- mjcalabreseApprentice@ canb_guy
There is a 1.0.2.105 version and a 1.0.2.106 version (links posted above). The 1.0.2.106 is supposed to fix the issues, the 105 version fixes a “security” issue.
If you’re on the 106 version please open a support case and ask for escalation to L2 support engineering. The L1 guys have no clue on what to do.
- sravsAspirant
I have a new MK63 since 29th June 2020 and I am on the latest firmware as of now. Experiencing wifi drops constantly. Have disabled AX but to no avail. I'd really appreciate any further tips and tricks to try.
As many others have also said, disabling AX is not an acceptable solution in any case given that it is one of the major selling points of the product!- mjcalabreseApprenticesravs, what specific version of firmware are you on? Just because the MK63 system says you’re on the latest version doesn’t necessarily mean that there isn’t a newer version available.
You should be on this version: https://community.netgear.com/t5/Nighthawk-Mesh-System/Nighthawk-Mesh-MK62-Dropping-Internet-Connection/m-p/1960241#M796
If you are, then please open a new support case and have it escalated to Tier 2 support.- sravsAspirant
- Tots2000Aspirant
It looks like I have fixed mine by reducing my DHCP scope and put my problematic devices on static ip outside of the scope.
I was getting duplicate ip errors in event log even though there were no duplicates. Each time it happened I was experiencing all the issues described in this thread.
I wouldn't have thought such a simple fix would be the solution but you never know!!
- jaycamcatAspirant
btreu 's suggestion of resetting NVRAM and PRAM helped and made a very noticeable difference. But it wasn't perfect, I'd still notice it drop a few times in a week. But that's still better than dropping once every few minutes!
I found a solution that seems to work even better than that.
I used the manufacturer warranty to get an exchange. That said, I wasted countless hours dealing with technical support.
In hindsight, the most ideal situation: buy it from a retailer / reseller with a generous return policy (NOT BEST BUY). Within that return window, make sure you open it up and confirm that it works. If it doesn't work, return it immediately to the retailer and get something else.
RMA horror story:
I ended up shipping back the router and satellite, and they literally shipped me back a router, but NO satellite. I had to call (let's say I made it clear was very VERY UNHAPPY about it), and they blamed it on their warehouse team (whatever, I don't care! Not my problem, just fix it!) Even worse, they asked me what was the serial number of the satellite I returned to them? WELL--I didn't know I had to record the serial number of the satellite. I had the shipping tracking # so I know it arrived. Lesson learned: save all your serial numbers.
You will waste a ton of time with customer service because they're always asking you for your case number (serial numbers, name, email, phone, all the information that they basically already have!), closing and opening new case numbers (even though it's a same case--which I suspect is to make their customer service metrics look better, as if they're actually solving more problems). You'll be on hold as they pass you from department to department. They'll give you a case number, and then ask you back to repeat the same case number, a few minutes later. Why?
As their customer service is in India, your phone call will also like drop a few times likely because of their bad VoIP implementation (irony for a networking company?)
- Retired_Member
Feedback.
DHCP is fixed and its running stable.
The ONLY issues now for me. After a while airplay stops working (I cannot connect to the speaker itself). When I reboot the speaker nothing happens. When I reboot the router and satellite everything works again.
I can provide to netgear debug_logs but the current case was closed and I cannot submit it to any case.
Best.
D
- GhettoSmurf373Initiate
I all of a sudden started experiencing connectivity issues as well. I am on the most current version, even tried to back date to version .98. Both router/satellite will connect fine after a modem reboot, stays connected for about an hour, then reboots the entire system. This happened in the middle of the day the first time, so I tried to factory reset on everything and try again (no dice). Called my ISP and spent days ensuring my modem/lines were all fine. Finally broke out a 5-year old Tenda router and everything works just fine.
As luck would have it, this router is 5-months old, so I am out of the 'free' 90-day support window. But I have been doing IT/Computer repair most of my life, something tells me this is still an unresolved firmware issue.
I am going to try disabling AX/advanced features as I just found this forum today, but so far, nothing has worked.- abhijeetjoshiAspirantTry resetting to factory or disabling traffic meter. Worked for me. Good luck!
- haolecougarAspirant
Thanks Abhijeetjoshi.
Provided this connection is "live" long enough for me to do it
Will try this in the morning, risking too much at this point. Was considering another Netgear product when this happened.
Very disappointed.
The nighthawk app is appalling as well. They should fire whoever created. Looks fancy but really doesn't serve its purpose considering how much trouble it had trying to connect even within their own mesh environment.
I hear that Netgear support is bad but hoping for a X'mas miracle!
Peace
- haolecougarAspirant
Hi,
I've started to experience this issue since about a week ago.
Previously, I might have to reboot my network once every 2-3 weeks etc.Today alone, I'm about through my 12th time at this moment, 3 times while writing this post.
I'm on the MK62 Mesh and was impressed with the "better" coverage at first. Seems like problems starts after the expiry of the 3month support.
There are no more than 5 devices connected (Max 12). As you can see from the screenshot, it keeps saying that there isn't a valid IP address. My The MR60 router sits next to my Fiber and my entire house is no more than 95sqm. I even have an extender in one of the rooms, just in case.
You can see from the screen grabs that the connection is there but keeps showing up as "There is no valid IP Address".
Windows Diagnostics point to a router or wireless adaptor problem. Tried with another USB wireless adaptor and I experience the same issue.
- Tots2000Aspirant
I've had this mesh system since July. I spent hours on support calls and chat to resolve and never got it resolved. I have given up in the hope that a firmware update may solve it at some point soon.
My other issue is speed. If I connect a device I am getting around 450 Mbps but then it will drop to near enough zero and if I disconnect and connect it will be back at 450.
I keep having a look to see if there are any other good WIFI6 mesh systems out there but I can't see anything with amazing reviews.
I will not be buying a Netgear router again that's for sure!